Benefits of/ reason for larger rear wheels?SP12 pics please?
Discussion
Hi 
I'm trying to decide what I want to do with my Chim wheel wise, I thought I'd found the perfect set of wheels, but now they've arrived I'm not happy with the offsets so thinking about going with the (almost ubiquitous?!) SP12/ Pro Race 1.2 set up. I've seen people running both 17" front and rears and 17" front/ 18" rears and not sure which is best?
Can someone tell me why TVR (and many others) use larger rear wheels (but then dropped them when they moved to the Tuscan/ T350 etc?!) and whether or not it would be beneficial for me stay with this set up or not? Also I'd like to run some wider rears if possible, something like an 8.5 or 9" ideally, does anyone have SP12's/ 1.2's in these widths and do they work?
I've done a few searches and found some SP12/ Pro Race 1.2 pics but if anyone has some good photos they'd like to post to help me make up my mind I'd be greatful
Sorry for all the questions, if/ when I order the wheels I want to get them right first time!
Thanks,
Rob
Edit;
Just seen this in another thread, it looks amazing... maybe a little more width on the rear wheels, but really what I'm looking for:
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/1652359.htm

I'm trying to decide what I want to do with my Chim wheel wise, I thought I'd found the perfect set of wheels, but now they've arrived I'm not happy with the offsets so thinking about going with the (almost ubiquitous?!) SP12/ Pro Race 1.2 set up. I've seen people running both 17" front and rears and 17" front/ 18" rears and not sure which is best?
Can someone tell me why TVR (and many others) use larger rear wheels (but then dropped them when they moved to the Tuscan/ T350 etc?!) and whether or not it would be beneficial for me stay with this set up or not? Also I'd like to run some wider rears if possible, something like an 8.5 or 9" ideally, does anyone have SP12's/ 1.2's in these widths and do they work?
I've done a few searches and found some SP12/ Pro Race 1.2 pics but if anyone has some good photos they'd like to post to help me make up my mind I'd be greatful

Sorry for all the questions, if/ when I order the wheels I want to get them right first time!
Thanks,
Rob
Edit;
Just seen this in another thread, it looks amazing... maybe a little more width on the rear wheels, but really what I'm looking for:
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/1652359.htm
Edited by Rob Crutch on Tuesday 27th April 11:01
Am very pleased with the sp12.
Might want to have a look around this link
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
Edited by only me on Tuesday 27th April 16:35
My chim with Pro Race 1.2s in Anthracite. The fronts are 17" x 7" with 215/40/17s, rears 17" x 8" with 245/40/17s. The offsets are standard for the chim 25 front and 35ish IIRC. In the picture the rears look like they don't fill the arches but in the flesh they look good especially side on. I was going to go for 18" rear but it would have meant a lower tyre profile as the overall diameter has to stay the same. I have to admit they were fitted purely for the look but grip and stability have definitely improved.

The fronts are 17" and the rears 18" offsets are the same as original, handling and cornering are greatly improved although the ride is slightly more harsh, however now changed to racing reds as well and feels like a totaly new car for the better !
Tony ( Clair is the wife )

Tony ( Clair is the wife )
Edited by only me on Tuesday 27th April 19:45
I have the exact same set up as bobsy above and avoided 18" rears because in my experience any additional handing benefit of a fractionally lower profile would fail to negate the substantial disadvantages of more expensive wheels, lots more expensive tyres and a decrease in ride quality on what is already a very stiffly sprung car.
I had the opportunity to drive 2 identical BMWs back-to-back on a number of occasions, both with sports suspension but one on 17s and one on 18s and was in no doubt as to which I preferred as a ride AND handling package.
Either will be a great improvement over the original setup though.
df
I had the opportunity to drive 2 identical BMWs back-to-back on a number of occasions, both with sports suspension but one on 17s and one on 18s and was in no doubt as to which I preferred as a ride AND handling package.
Either will be a great improvement over the original setup though.
df
I accept what df says but just prefer the larger size on the rear like the original 16" 15" set up. The ride is slightly harder but this is far outweighed by the handling and in my opinion looks.
Have never driven one with 17" on back but know that i am happy with my choice of the 18"
Have never driven one with 17" on back but know that i am happy with my choice of the 18"
I too run 17" all round Oz superleggra's 215/40/17 fronts and 225/45/17 rear would not want a samller profile than this on our roads find them good and dont want any wider than 225 on the rear as the eagle f1's have more than enough grip in the dry and being that bit narrow let the water get out the tyre tread much quicker that the old 245 it had on the car when i first bought it very happy with the set up.
There are two reasons that SP12 ended up as 17" front and 18" rear - the most obvious is that the factory set-up has 15/16 so when upgrading the proportions of the car look "right" with the same diameter "stagger" front to back. The other reason is that the 8x17 wheel (SP12 or P-C 1.2) is a very different design to the 7x17 (bowed spokes for motorsport applications with big brakes) and looks odd coupled with the 7x17 at the front. We do use the 8x17 in the front (for Cerb etc.) with a 9x17 at the rear because the look then makes sense (bowed spokes at the front with big brakes, deep(-ish) dish at the rear.
Full SP said:
There are two reasons that SP12 ended up as 17" front and 18" rear - the most obvious is that the factory set-up has 15/16 so when upgrading the proportions of the car look "right" with the same diameter "stagger" front to back. The other reason is that the 8x17 wheel (SP12 or P-C 1.2) is a very different design to the 7x17 (bowed spokes for motorsport applications with big brakes) and looks odd coupled with the 7x17 at the front. We do use the 8x17 in the front (for Cerb etc.) with a 9x17 at the rear because the look then makes sense (bowed spokes at the front with big brakes, deep(-ish) dish at the rear.
Thanks for the info/ background. Will a Chimaera take the 8x17/ 9x17 set up you've used on Cerberas? I'm looking for change my front brakes to the 300mm ST170 setup in the not too distant future, so would have a bit bigger brakes...albeit with still pretty small calipers if that makes any difference? Thanks,
Rob
Positives (IMO):
Much stiffer laterally
Wide tyre choice including the new AWESOME Toyo R1-R's
Looks/modernisation
Bigger brake options
Disadvantages (IMO):
Slightly heavier although, with the SP12's, the weight is not much different so i believe
wheel price
Tyre price
Need aftermarket adjustable shocks to get best out of ride/handling
Much stiffer laterally
Wide tyre choice including the new AWESOME Toyo R1-R's
Looks/modernisation
Bigger brake options
Disadvantages (IMO):
Slightly heavier although, with the SP12's, the weight is not much different so i believe
wheel price
Tyre price
Need aftermarket adjustable shocks to get best out of ride/handling
I had 18's rear and 17's front, team dynamics jordan R's.
Not sure about harsh ride, I guess a bit lumpy but is this not a sports car?! Handling better, felt like i had more grip (different tyres I admit). The bible has a really useful table in it for relative sizing.
also looks a lot better!
Not sure about harsh ride, I guess a bit lumpy but is this not a sports car?! Handling better, felt like i had more grip (different tyres I admit). The bible has a really useful table in it for relative sizing.
also looks a lot better!
Thanks! I'm still trying to find out what's standard versus modified. It came out of the Malaysia factory in late 2002. Certainly the wheels, stripe and Nitrons aren't standard. It also has an oil cooler, quad-lamp front-end conversion, sub-woofer in the boot and a mysterious push button next to the rear numberplate.
Dunc
Dunc
Rob Crutch said:
Full SP said:
There are two reasons that SP12 ended up as 17" front and 18" rear - the most obvious is that the factory set-up has 15/16 so when upgrading the proportions of the car look "right" with the same diameter "stagger" front to back. The other reason is that the 8x17 wheel (SP12 or P-C 1.2) is a very different design to the 7x17 (bowed spokes for motorsport applications with big brakes) and looks odd coupled with the 7x17 at the front. We do use the 8x17 in the front (for Cerb etc.) with a 9x17 at the rear because the look then makes sense (bowed spokes at the front with big brakes, deep(-ish) dish at the rear.
Thanks for the info/ background. Will a Chimaera take the 8x17/ 9x17 set up you've used on Cerberas? I'm looking for change my front brakes to the 300mm ST170 setup in the not too distant future, so would have a bit bigger brakes...albeit with still pretty small calipers if that makes any difference? Thanks,
Rob
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