Working nights at short notice
Working nights at short notice
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Dixie68

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3,091 posts

214 months

Tuesday 27th April 2010
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I bend over backwards for my company, working nights and weekends at short notice to meet deadlines, but I think that they're now taking the mickey. This weekend and the bank holiday Monday I've arranged to go away with the girlfriend, (canal boat trip, leaving at 9am Saturday). Yesterday work told me that they need me to supervise some work this Thursday and Friday night, 7pm to 7am, meaning I will get home at around 9am but won't have had any sleep the previous night. (I normally work 8am to 4pm).
I want to tell them no, but because of their short-sightedness I am the only person qualified to supervise the work in case a last-minute change needs to be made - despite me constantly telling them that we need at least one other person trained up to my level, (senior engineer).
If I don't do the work then a test weekend that is scheduled may fail, so it needs to be done, but I'm fed up that yet again my plans are in jeopardy because they've come up with a 'last-minute' shift and I want them to put something in writing along the lines of, "if we need you to work nights or weekends we will give you xx days notice".
Again, I will do short-notice changes of shift, but is it wrong of me to occasionally put myself and my girlfriend first? Is there something laid down in law that I can point to?
Cheers.

tim2100

6,288 posts

284 months

Tuesday 27th April 2010
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Can you not just speak to your manager and say that you have booked a weekend away, leaving at 9am on Saturday?

Add in a meal out booked on the Friday night smile



Fittster

20,120 posts

240 months

Tuesday 27th April 2010
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What does your contract say?

Ultimately you may well have to refuse before the company does something about totally relying on you.

Rude-boy

22,227 posts

260 months

Tuesday 27th April 2010
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Depending upon the terms of your contract you should just tell them that this can't go on. It sounds like this is quite an important one this time so i would make a point of explaining that this will be the last one and that in future you must have X days notice.

Lay it on think about how much you are putting yourself out, even if you aren't your employer will assume you are anyway!

There is the trade off that the higher up the food chain you get, or want to get, the more you have to be prepared to deal with this sort of thing, but sometimes you have to put your foot down or you will become the patsy and the longer you put off the difficult conversation the harder it's going to be to have in the future.

itsnotarace

4,685 posts

236 months

Tuesday 27th April 2010
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I'd tell them to do one, and then find a new job

Dixie68

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3,091 posts

214 months

Tuesday 27th April 2010
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itsnotarace said:
I'd tell them to do one, and then find a new job
Well it's a really well-paid job and one that I enjoy, except for this fannying around. I've cancelled the canal boat, (which means I'm now in the dog house with SWMBO), as I really am the only person who has to be there to make last-minute changes if needed.
My contract just has the hours per week I work, says "days but with the occasional night or weekend". "Occasional" my arse.
I think I'm going to have to put it to them that unless I can get someone who can deputise for me every now and then I'm going to stop doing the extra shifts all together as I've got naff all social life ATM.

tim2100

6,288 posts

284 months

Tuesday 27th April 2010
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Do they know that this has screwed up your plans, and potentially cost you cancellation charges, and make-up charges to SWMBO?

Sounds like you take what they say, but don't have the bottle to say once 'NO'

Pothole

34,367 posts

309 months

Tuesday 27th April 2010
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Dixie68 said:
itsnotarace said:
I'd tell them to do one, and then find a new job
Well it's a really well-paid job and one that I enjoy, except for this fannying around. I've cancelled the canal boat, (which means I'm now in the dog house with SWMBO), as I really am the only person who has to be there to make last-minute changes if needed.
My contract just has the hours per week I work, says "days but with the occasional night or weekend". "Occasional" my arse.
I think I'm going to have to put it to them that unless I can get someone who can deputise for me every now and then I'm going to stop doing the extra shifts all together as I've got naff all social life ATM.
You could approach it from the point of view of 'who'll do it if I am sick' etc....

scirocco265

421 posts

203 months

Tuesday 27th April 2010
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Rude-boy said:
Depending upon the terms of your contract you should just tell them that this can't go on. It sounds like this is quite an important one this time so i would make a point of explaining that this will be the last one and that in future you must have X days notice.

Lay it on think about how much you are putting yourself out, even if you aren't your employer will assume you are anyway!

There is the trade off that the higher up the food chain you get, or want to get, the more you have to be prepared to deal with this sort of thing, but sometimes you have to put your foot down or you will become the patsy and the longer you put off the difficult conversation the harder it's going to be to have in the future.
This is really sound advice. Sounds like your Company needs you, just make sure that they realise that they do and appreciate it.

Tallbut Buxomly

12,254 posts

243 months

Wednesday 28th April 2010
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I would advise organising a meeting with your manager and pointing out that you are tired of the situation and that you wish to be consulted in future as you are not "on call".