Tory Suspended Over 'Offensive' Web Remarks
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Not the most exciting of stories but yet another would be MP bites the dust.
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A Conservative Party candidate has been suspended after making "deeply offensive" comments about homosexuality on his website.
Philip Lardner was standing in the Scottish constituency of North Ayrshire and Arran.
here's a rival for the usual Lib Dem photo
http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Politics/Philip-L...
A Conservative Party candidate has been suspended after making "deeply offensive" comments about homosexuality on his website.
Philip Lardner was standing in the Scottish constituency of North Ayrshire and Arran.
here's a rival for the usual Lib Dem photo
Edited by limpsfield on Tuesday 27th April 15:40
AndrewW-G said:
Glad to hear he's been suspended at least the story hasnt been left to fester for a week or two, before they did the right thing.
Religion should be kept out of politics as far as possible
What did he do except commit a thought crime?Religion should be kept out of politics as far as possible
Edited by AndrewW-G on Tuesday 27th April 16:20
I think there was a bit of a knee jerk reaction to this.
"I will always support the rights of homosexuals to be treated within concepts of (common sense) equality and respect, and defend their rights to choose to live the way they want in private, but I will not accept that their behaviour is 'normal' or encourage children to indulge in it.
"Toleration and understanding is one thing, but the state promotion of homosexuality is quite another."
Is that comment that far removed from some religious opinions?
Labour are still in the lead with two, while the Lib Dems and Tories have one each.
"I will always support the rights of homosexuals to be treated within concepts of (common sense) equality and respect, and defend their rights to choose to live the way they want in private, but I will not accept that their behaviour is 'normal' or encourage children to indulge in it.
"Toleration and understanding is one thing, but the state promotion of homosexuality is quite another."
Is that comment that far removed from some religious opinions?
Labour are still in the lead with two, while the Lib Dems and Tories have one each.
MX7 said:
I think there was a bit of a knee jerk reaction to this.
"I will always support the rights of homosexuals to be treated within concepts of (common sense) equality and respect, and defend their rights to choose to live the way they want in private, but I will not accept that their behaviour is 'normal' or encourage children to indulge in it.
"Toleration and understanding is one thing, but the state promotion of homosexuality is quite another."
He's right in the sense that the state should stay out of private lives and sexuality."I will always support the rights of homosexuals to be treated within concepts of (common sense) equality and respect, and defend their rights to choose to live the way they want in private, but I will not accept that their behaviour is 'normal' or encourage children to indulge in it.
"Toleration and understanding is one thing, but the state promotion of homosexuality is quite another."
Having said that in this day and age of FEAR of being accused of being the equivalent of an enemy of the people in Soviet Russia, you can't say anything critical of gays basically.
SmoothRB said:
MX7 said:
I think there was a bit of a knee jerk reaction to this.
"I will always support the rights of homosexuals to be treated within concepts of (common sense) equality and respect, and defend their rights to choose to live the way they want in private, but I will not accept that their behaviour is 'normal' or encourage children to indulge in it.
"Toleration and understanding is one thing, but the state promotion of homosexuality is quite another."
He's right in the sense that the state should stay out of private lives and sexuality."I will always support the rights of homosexuals to be treated within concepts of (common sense) equality and respect, and defend their rights to choose to live the way they want in private, but I will not accept that their behaviour is 'normal' or encourage children to indulge in it.
"Toleration and understanding is one thing, but the state promotion of homosexuality is quite another."
Having said that in this day and age of FEAR of being accused of being the equivalent of an enemy of the people in Soviet Russia, you can't say anything critical of gays basically.
It's freaking NUTS.
On the website, Mr Lardner said he would tolerate "common sense equality and respect" for gay people but "will not accept that their behaviour is 'normal' or encourage children to indulge in it."
He also supported the law known as Section 28 which was repealed in 2003.
"The promotion of homosexuality by public bodies...was correctly outlawed by Mrs Thatcher's government. Toleration and understanding is one thing, but state-promotion of homosexuality is quite another," he wrote.
His comments, entitled "what do I believe in?" continued: "Christians (and most of the population) believe homosexuality to be somewhere between 'unfortunate' and simply 'wrong' and they should not be penalised for politely saying so - good manners count too, of course.
"The current 'law' is wrong and must be overturned in the interests of freedom as well as Christian values."
I've read that four times now and I'm having difficulty disagreeing with any of it.
Do I need to change my vote from conservative?
More importantly do I need to arrange to have myself birched?
Or maybe the news site didn't reveal all that was said?
He also supported the law known as Section 28 which was repealed in 2003.
"The promotion of homosexuality by public bodies...was correctly outlawed by Mrs Thatcher's government. Toleration and understanding is one thing, but state-promotion of homosexuality is quite another," he wrote.
His comments, entitled "what do I believe in?" continued: "Christians (and most of the population) believe homosexuality to be somewhere between 'unfortunate' and simply 'wrong' and they should not be penalised for politely saying so - good manners count too, of course.
"The current 'law' is wrong and must be overturned in the interests of freedom as well as Christian values."
I've read that four times now and I'm having difficulty disagreeing with any of it.
Do I need to change my vote from conservative?
More importantly do I need to arrange to have myself birched?
Or maybe the news site didn't reveal all that was said?
MOTORVATOR said:
I've read that four times now and I'm having difficulty disagreeing with any of it.
Do I need to change my vote from conservative?
More importantly do I need to arrange to have myself birched?
Or maybe the news site didn't reveal all that was said?
The big thing he said was 'not normal'. Do I need to change my vote from conservative?
More importantly do I need to arrange to have myself birched?
Or maybe the news site didn't reveal all that was said?
It's factually true but otoh may imply a value judgement against gays.
The gay outrage-mongers and activists are always looking for any excuse and the Tory party did the pragmatic (but morally questionable thing) of throwing him under a bus.
It's sad time we live in when thoughts are crimes.
FourWheelDrift said:
It's so tight in the election no one wants anything to cause offence to anyone.
I get that but, by denouncing him and his views as stated there, it is tantamount to saying the tories support...."encourage children to indulge in it"
"state-promotion of homosexuality"
And that there should be no freedom of speech in regard to homosexuality whatever.
Surely that is more offensive to the majority of the electorate?
SmoothRB said:
The big thing he said was 'not normal'.
It's factually true but otoh may imply a value judgement against gays.
The gay outrage-mongers and activists are always looking for any excuse and the Tory party did the pragmatic (but morally questionable thing) of throwing him under a bus.
It's sad time we live in when thoughts are crimes.
"conforming to the standard or the common type"It's factually true but otoh may imply a value judgement against gays.
The gay outrage-mongers and activists are always looking for any excuse and the Tory party did the pragmatic (but morally questionable thing) of throwing him under a bus.
It's sad time we live in when thoughts are crimes.
I'm pretty sure the far greater majority of the population are not homosexual and therefore are the norm.
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