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Does anyone know where I can find racing line infomation for curcuits in the UK and Europe?
I am looking for Lydden Hill and Spa in particular.
I am relativly new to track days and have only ever been around Brands, however I have the other 2 booked for this summer and would like to check out a bit about the lines before I go.
Cheers
I am looking for Lydden Hill and Spa in particular.
I am relativly new to track days and have only ever been around Brands, however I have the other 2 booked for this summer and would like to check out a bit about the lines before I go.
Cheers
LuckyP said:
I've seen a one of my fellow competitors use a small, A5 size spiral bound circuit guide which had in it all the UK track. I'm affraid I don't know where he got it. Anyone know?
HTHhttp://www.circuitguides.com/
Honestly, if you're unsure just get yourself an instructor at each of the circuits and you won't believe how much you will learn. On my first ever track day I thought I was motoring around really well, then had a 20 minute session with an instructor.
During that 20 minutes we spent a bit of time spent on where I should be on the track, and a bit on technique (looking to the apex before turning, and then for an exit etc). By the end of the 20 minutes I was a gear up on every corner because I was carrying so much more speed.
It's the best £30 you will spend, and it will help you way more than a picture of a racing line will.
During that 20 minutes we spent a bit of time spent on where I should be on the track, and a bit on technique (looking to the apex before turning, and then for an exit etc). By the end of the 20 minutes I was a gear up on every corner because I was carrying so much more speed.
It's the best £30 you will spend, and it will help you way more than a picture of a racing line will.
Lydden's track days often have instructors there that you can use free of charge. One slight word of warning, based on my previous experience, they are more relaxed on overtaking rules at Lydden (in corners and without concent as long as you aren't silly) so may be a bit more daunting for a relative novice. They do seperate out the groups by speed/experience though so that will help.
I posted a link on another thread to Skip Barbers "Going Faster" book on amazon. For me it has proven to be worth 10x the price. Explains where you should be on track and why. Read it 4 or 5 times and then get a track map and work out your lines. Take it with you and plot your braking points etc. Makes a huge difference.
RS09 said:
Does anyone know where I can find racing line infomation for curcuits in the UK and Europe?
I am looking for Lydden Hill and Spa in particular.
I am relativly new to track days and have only ever been around Brands, however I have the other 2 booked for this summer and would like to check out a bit about the lines before I go.
Cheers
Lines matter, but don't get too hung up on them. Different cars require different lines, different drivers use different lines, wet v dry, etc. I am looking for Lydden Hill and Spa in particular.
I am relativly new to track days and have only ever been around Brands, however I have the other 2 booked for this summer and would like to check out a bit about the lines before I go.
Cheers
You've got those four patches of rubber connecting you to planet Earth. What they're doing - what you're making them do - is the crucial issue. Don't ignore the line, but it is derived from what the car wants to do. The tyres will tell you what they are capable of. Focus on the tyres, and the line will follow naturally.
I think that's right, lines do matter, but they should be your lines. 3 of us share the Radical and we all use slightly different lines. I enjoy reviewing the circuit guides, look at youtube laps and so on, where my chums don't.
If new to a circuit the cones typically put out to show turn in points and apex points provide a reasonable initial guide. I found however that I was getting fixated on those points, almost to the extent that I was disregarding what the car was telling me. There was a thread on here about the way you look through a bend, in much the same way that you drive on road. That made me think and i conciously applied that at Snetterton recently. Made quite a difference I have to say.
If new to a circuit the cones typically put out to show turn in points and apex points provide a reasonable initial guide. I found however that I was getting fixated on those points, almost to the extent that I was disregarding what the car was telling me. There was a thread on here about the way you look through a bend, in much the same way that you drive on road. That made me think and i conciously applied that at Snetterton recently. Made quite a difference I have to say.
silverthorn2151 said:
There was a thread on here about the way you look through a bend, in much the same way that you drive on road.
Totally.There are some blind bends that can be taken flat where, every time through, I force myself to picture in my mind the space hundreds of metres beyond the limit of vision. You need to make quick checks of where you're at, for debris, dampness on the circuit, or to orientate yourself precisely and stay off the grass, but 80% of your visual attention should be on where you want to get to, not on where you are.
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