Something electrical breaks down inside three months, so...
Something electrical breaks down inside three months, so...
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King Herald

Original Poster:

23,501 posts

246 months

Thursday 29th April 2010
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...am I entitled to a new one, or do I have to accept it being repaired?

Item in question is a 32" TV bought new in December, that has suddenly lost its picture. The repairman is coming tomorrow, but should he be allowed to fit a new part or whatever, or am I entitled to demand a brand new tv?

tegwin

1,682 posts

236 months

Thursday 29th April 2010
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The manufacturer is at liberty to decide if a repair or replacement is required.... I imagine a repair is cheaper... so this is what will be done... if the same part fails again, I would argue that the TV is not fit for purpose and therefore a replacement should be supplied...

But in this instance.... you have to live with 3 month old tech I am afraid!

Syd knee

3,660 posts

235 months

Thursday 29th April 2010
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Worse than you think, they can even fit a secondhand part, as long as it is no older than the original. And no you have no say in this. To be helpfull the law only states they must be reasonable, their is no deffinition of reasonable.

Jasandjules

72,626 posts

259 months

Thursday 29th April 2010
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They have correctly stated above, it is the option of the seller to repair or replace.

King Herald

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23,501 posts

246 months

Thursday 29th April 2010
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Good grief, is there no customer power any more? frown There was a time the customer actually meant something, some phrase like "the customer is occasionally right"

To add insult to injury they expected me to wait until a week on Saturday for the engineer to come out, to which I replied that it was just not acceptable, and eventually called head office to see what can be done. They will 'try' to get a guy here tomorrow. rolleyes

How about I simply drag it back to Comet and demand a replacement? I guess I'd get stiffed there too?

carreauchompeur

18,328 posts

234 months

Thursday 29th April 2010
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Nah, bks. I'd just take it back to the store. Preferably on a busy Saturday to add potential embarrasment hazard. After all, if they want to fix it, fine- They can sell it as "ex-demo" afterwards.

eccles

14,399 posts

252 months

Thursday 29th April 2010
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King Herald said:
They will 'try' to get a guy here tomorrow. rolleyes
So that means in reality you'll hang around all day and (if you're lucky) get a phone call at five to five saying they won't be able to make it!

Jasandjules

72,626 posts

259 months

Thursday 29th April 2010
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King Herald said:
How about I simply drag it back to Comet and demand a replacement? I guess I'd get stiffed there too?
Well, it can certainly work. Especially if you wait until Saturday, and when there are enough people in the store, walk in and demand (loudly) to speak to the manager about this c**p TV that has gone wrong in just three months. I suspect there is a strong chance you'll get a new TV within a few minutes......

There is no legal obligation for them to get you a new TV, but bad customer ranting in store may well pursuade them that it's easier for them to shut you up to give you a new TV sharpish..

King Herald

Original Poster:

23,501 posts

246 months

Thursday 29th April 2010
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Jasandjules said:
King Herald said:
How about I simply drag it back to Comet and demand a replacement? I guess I'd get stiffed there too?
Well, it can certainly work. Especially if you wait until Saturday, and when there are enough people in the store, walk in and demand (loudly) to speak to the manager about this c**p TV that has gone wrong in just three months. I suspect there is a strong chance you'll get a new TV within a few minutes......

There is no legal obligation for them to get you a new TV, but bad customer ranting in store may well pursuade them that it's easier for them to shut you up to give you a new TV sharpish..
Right, if there is no joy tomorrow I shall manhandle the bloody thing into the store on Saturday lunchtime, and make sure they know exactly what has happened.

shoutHey, peoples.........three months old....no picture....ten days to get a tech out.... etc etc

Kit80

4,764 posts

217 months

Thursday 29th April 2010
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I had similar issue recently after a very expensive camera lens stoped working under warrenty period and I wanted a replacement.

I was advised to look at my rights here:

http://www.consumerdirect.gov.uk/after_you_buy/kno...

or to contact Consumer Direct on 08454 04 05 06.

Under the Sale of Goods Act you are entitled to a repair or replacement. Any arbitrary limit they impose is nonsense, they are obliged under UK consumer law to repair your purchase. If they do not repair it this time, it is not unreasonable to require a replacement.

If it is cheaper for them to repair it they will do that, if not they will replace it. I contacted the manufacturer direct and they very quickly repiared in less than a week as oppose to the 4 week guideline as I explained it would be of major inconvenience to me.

I was also linked to this which might help.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/theoneshow/consumer/200...


Plotloss

67,280 posts

300 months

Thursday 29th April 2010
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As has been said, you have no right to a replacement. The fault must be repaired within a reasonable time frame which would be in the order of 14-21 days or thereabouts in most cases.

It may turn out that when the engineer visits the set is deemed uneconomical to repair and then they will provide a replacement but that is obviously discretionary dependant on fault.

headcase

2,389 posts

247 months

Thursday 29th April 2010
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He may also turn up and say 'Its not plugged in missus' or ' Your aerail has fell off the roof' or 'why is there a wii controller stuck out of the front of it' or 'its sitting in a pool of water' or ' why have you called us when its your sky box that has gone off' like i do several times a week!

Gretchen

19,798 posts

246 months

Thursday 29th April 2010
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I'm reading via my phone, but can't see that you've mentioned the name of the TV manufacturer? In my experience the more reputable ones will replace.

In the case of my six month old Hotpoint mid-range washing machine whose door fell off, I was given a replacement top of the range machine as it was their policy for manufacturer faults.

Good luck. You might have it sorted in time for whichever James Bond classic is on over Bank Holiday wink

King Herald

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23,501 posts

246 months

Friday 30th April 2010
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Gretchen said:
I'm reading via my phone, but can't see that you've mentioned the name of the TV manufacturer? In my experience the more reputable ones will replace.

In the case of my six month old Hotpoint mid-range washing machine whose door fell off, I was given a replacement top of the range machine as it was their policy for manufacturer faults.

Good luck. You might have it sorted in time for whichever James Bond classic is on over Bank Holiday wink
It's a Hitachi 32" LCD.

It's actually the daughters bedroom tv, but its a better picture than our big expensive thing downstairs. frown


Edited by King Herald on Friday 30th April 00:08

K87

2,111 posts

217 months

Friday 30th April 2010
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What's the problem with repairing it? If when repaired its as good as it originally was then theres no issue surely? It won't affect its resale value if you ever do resell it.

Fair enough if it keeps breaking then exchange it.

But seriously??? You're making a deal out of nothing here. Something's gone wrong with a product and they're sending someone out the next day to have a look at it! Talk about unreasonable customers.

Shuvi

889 posts

236 months

Friday 30th April 2010
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King Herald said:
...am I entitled to a new one, or do I have to accept it being repaired?

Item in question is a 32" TV bought new in December, that has suddenly lost its picture. The repairman is coming tomorrow, but should he be allowed to fit a new part or whatever, or am I entitled to demand a brand new tv?
Don't take advice from here(me excepted).

Don't repair it take it back. 3 months is unreasonable. Check your rights, not Pistonheads.

King Herald

Original Poster:

23,501 posts

246 months

Friday 30th April 2010
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K87 said:
What's the problem with repairing it? If when repaired its as good as it originally was then theres no issue surely? It won't affect its resale value if you ever do resell it.

Fair enough if it keeps breaking then exchange it.

But seriously??? You're making a deal out of nothing here. Something's gone wrong with a product and they're sending someone out the next day to have a look at it! Talk about unreasonable customers.
If we wanted a used TV that has been taken to bits and had spares fitted we would have gone to a fvckin' car boot sale!!! There is a reason we spent £300,and not £30.

If you bought a brand new car and it siezed needed a new motor after three months driving would you be so quick to accept?????

King Herald

Original Poster:

23,501 posts

246 months

Friday 30th April 2010
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Shuvi said:
King Herald said:
...am I entitled to a new one, or do I have to accept it being repaired?

Item in question is a 32" TV bought new in December, that has suddenly lost its picture. The repairman is coming tomorrow, but should he be allowed to fit a new part or whatever, or am I entitled to demand a brand new tv?
Don't take advice from here(me excepted).

Don't repair it take it back. 3 months is unreasonable. Check your rights, not Pistonheads.
The guy came out, tells us the main back lighting bulb has died. He told us he can either put an order in for one, minimum seven days to receive it, then he has to come back and fit it, or we can go back to the shop and speak to the manager there. It might be a one off failure, or it might be a crappy product.

Plotloss

67,280 posts

300 months

Friday 30th April 2010
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King Herald said:
K87 said:
What's the problem with repairing it? If when repaired its as good as it originally was then theres no issue surely? It won't affect its resale value if you ever do resell it.

Fair enough if it keeps breaking then exchange it.

But seriously??? You're making a deal out of nothing here. Something's gone wrong with a product and they're sending someone out the next day to have a look at it! Talk about unreasonable customers.
If we wanted a used TV that has been taken to bits and had spares fitted we would have gone to a fvckin' car boot sale!!! There is a reason we spent £300,and not £30.

If you bought a brand new car and it siezed needed a new motor after three months driving would you be so quick to accept?????
So if you bought a brand new car and the alternator failed you'd expect a new car?

Your rights are that you have to accept a repair, anything else is goodwill.

ProfessorPeach

616 posts

201 months

Friday 30th April 2010
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carreauchompeur said:
Nah, bks. I'd just take it back to the store. Preferably on a busy Saturday to add potential embarrasment hazard. After all, if they want to fix it, fine- They can sell it as "ex-demo" afterwards.
I agree with this.

Forget what your "rights" are.

Just decide what you want, and get it.

3 months is too soon for a telly to fail.

They will probably concede.

If not, tell them you are unemployed and have feck all else to do except stand outside the shop telling all their customers what a bunch of shysters they are. Tell them your brother-in-law is a journalist at the local paper, and he's going to come down with a photographer. If that doesn't work then tell them to get head office on the phone on the spot. Tell them you will report the feckers to trading standards. Stage a dirty protest.


Etc etc.