Tories plan bonfire of Labour laws

[Puggit]

Tomorrow's Sunday Times headline - more to follow.

That's a great vote winner by itself.

Edited to add link http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/art...

Edited by Puggit on Sunday 2nd May 06:49

[NoelWatson]

Puggit said:

Tomorrow's Sunday Times headline - more to follow.

That's a great vote winner by itself.

I remember when my Father got back from the Falklands we had a street party (although I was too young to take part). Do you think we will have as big a celebration this time?

[WhoseGeneration]

Puggit said:

Tomorrow's Sunday Times headline - more to follow.

That's a great vote winner by itself.

Perhaps.
Until we see the detail, judgement should be reserved.
Because, it might be that such a policy might alienate all those charged with enforcing those laws.
Piper, pay, tune.

[randlemarcus]

WhoseGeneration said:

Puggit said:

Tomorrow's Sunday Times headline - more to follow.

That's a great vote winner by itself.

Perhaps.
Until we see the detail, judgement should be reserved.
Because, it might be that such a policy might alienate all those charged with enforcing those laws.
Piper, pay, tune.

Although it might be that they feel that broader, interpretable laws are better than situational specific ones, and fit more easily into a flexible policing strategy (DWDCA vs using a mobile device etc etc)

[deadslow]

Will it include the Freedom of Information Act, which they fought heroically?

[WhoseGeneration]

randlemarcus said:

Although it might be that they feel that broader, interpretable laws are better than situational specific ones, and fit more easily into a flexible policing strategy (DWDCA vs using a mobile device etc etc)

I was questioning "vote winner" from the OP.

[randlemarcus]

WhoseGeneration said:

randlemarcus said:

Although it might be that they feel that broader, interpretable laws are better than situational specific ones, and fit more easily into a flexible policing strategy (DWDCA vs using a mobile device etc etc)

I was questioning "vote winner" from the OP.

Ah, OK

I'd suggest that most right thinking people would welcome smaller government. I see your point.

If its not a vote winner, we are in a worse state than I thought

[Mojooo]

deadslow said:

Will it include the Freedom of Information Act, which they fought heroically?

If they got rid of the FOI act imagine how much public organisations could save by not having to comply = extra way to cut public spending.

[Mojooo]

"This would scrap ID cards, home information packs and dozens of rarely enforced criminal offences introduced by Labour over 13 years. "

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/art...

hmm, if those other criminal legislations are rarely enfcorced by get rid of them. presumably they were created to plug a gap.....

[Sheets Tabuer]

ID cards ID cards ID cards

[WhoseGeneration]

Sheets Tabuer said:

ID cards ID cards ID cards

Indeed.
Beware the EU though.
"Although we are against them, our Membership means...".

[Futuo]

Going to be a huge bonfire, isn't it more than 1 piece of new legislation for every day Labour have been in power?

Rip up the smoking ban, hunting ban, increase in GATSOs, human rights for crims crap, early release blah blah and they get my vote.

[Mojooo]

They wont be able to reverse the smoking ban - no way

[randlemarcus]

Mojooo said:

They wont be able to reverse the smoking ban - no way

Perhaps a sensible amendment to allow non-food establishments to choose? Might help the decline of the pub, fits with the self-determination thing?

[Futuo]

Mojooo said:

They wont be able to reverse the smoking ban - no way

Why not, just let the landlord decide re pubs, fine with it most other places.

[Mojooo]

I think the atitude has swung too far towards people thinking it is a positive thing TBH (and I agree for the record).


Imagine all the people complaining that they are now in a job which puts their health at 'risk' but wasn't there when they started!

[Futuo]

5 pubs a day are closing because of the ban (and other things but mostly the ban) so those folk won't have any work, so how's that better?

Nope daft law brought in by meddling control freaks

FACT

[GreigM]

Futuo said:

Nope daft law brought in by meddling control freaks

FACT

Shouting FACT does not make it so...its your opinion and in mine you're wrong.

[Mojooo]

Futuo said:

5 pubs a day are closing because of the ban (and other things but mostly the ban) so those folk won't have any work, so how's that better?

Nope daft law brought in by meddling control freaks

FACT

How is it better?

They won't be dead sooner.

And its probably only a small reason as to why pubs are shutting.

[Futuo]

GreigM said:

Futuo said:

Nope daft law brought in by meddling control freaks

FACT

Shouting FACT does not make it so...its your opinion and in mine you're wrong.

Was meant as a joke, bit like that tt from Britain's got talent, Piers Morgan

It is my opinion and therefore a fact


The smoking ban is the biggest single reason so many pubs are closing down, as the vast majority of their customers were smokers, so if they can't smoke they don't go out. Spoken to many a landlord and not one has said otherwise (granted town centre pubs for the young uns are okay and gastro pubs but I'm talking old fashioned drinking pubs that were just about managing pre ban, that was the final straw).

If that is not the case then none of the pubs will want to go back to allowing smoking so what has anyone got to fear from scrapping the law, unless of course perhaps the antis are not so sure of their stance and fear a lot of pubs know the ban is killing their business.......