Trident replacement.... why do you think its require?

[Tony*T3]

I see the lib dems want to cancel the Trident replacement. I assume this makes pretty good economic sense (anyone care to say how much?).

So why so many objections? Who are the current nukes 'deterring'and who do the future nukes need to keep us safe from?

[JakeS]

North Korea, China & Russia.

[Eric Mc]

Do you not think that the UK is still a potential target of a nuclear strike?

[Tony*T3]

JakeS said:

North Korea, China & Russia.

Really? NK? really? Not just a bit paranoid. Not sure China would ever want to attack us either? FOr what reason exactly? Russia, hmmm, could go back to communism I suppose.

Still cant think of any reason why they would attack us either.

[Tony*T3]

Eric Mc said:

Do you not think that the UK is still a potential target of a nuclear strike?

Only from terrorists. Cant think of any country that has anywhere near the capability to attack us that would actually want to.

[Puggit]

Because we don't know the future - and if something happens we can't just buy one and have it ready on the next day!

[The real Apache]

JakeS said:

North Korea, China & Russia.

Why would any of these countries attack the UK?

[Don]

JakeS said:

North Korea, China & Russia.

North Korea and Iran particularly.

Aids diplomacy with China, Russia and, yes, the US.

We need to retain the ability to blow the st out of anyone prepared to do it to us...because with some of them it's only the prospect of their country being reduced to molten glass that is stopping them.

[Don]

Puggit said:

Because we don't know the future - and if something happens we can't just buy one and have it ready on the next day!

This, too.

[Tangent Police]

Because the lib dems are a bunch of student tossers with no fking idea.

That's about as concise as I can be.

[Tony*T3]

Don said:

JakeS said:

North Korea, China & Russia.

North Korea and Iran particularly.

.

WTF would Iran attack the UK with Nukes? And NK will never have the capability.


So is being 'in the nuke club' really worth it these days?

[JakeS]

Tony*T3 said:

JakeS said:

North Korea, China & Russia.

Really? NK? really? Not just a bit paranoid. Not sure China would ever want to attack us either? FOr what reason exactly? Russia, hmmm, could go back to communism I suppose.

Still cant think of any reason why they would attack us either.

Not at the moment, But obviously the Lib Dems want to scrap a nuclear deterrent for the future. In 30-40 years North Korea may well have the ability to launch a Nuclear missile some distance. If they don't all die of starvation first anyway.

I would say our biggest threat would come from Russia. Perhaps not the Government, but I would imagine there are a fair few Russian military types who would quite like to see the Motherland returned to full strength.

Edited by JakeS on Tuesday 4th May 13:44

[Carfiend]

Just because things are relatively stable today doesn't mean that it will be in 20 years time. While alarmist things like Man Made Global Warming are of questionable validity to the cynical thinking man there is still the fact that resources are stretched and short of an event to reduce the population they will continue to be.

An event say like an Nuclear War?

[Tony*T3]

Seems that 'paranoia' is the most reasonable arguement being made so far.

£100 billion for paranoia and muscle flexing.


Well heres a couter arguement for you,. We're probably morer at risk from our own nuke weapons than we are from any other countries nukes. Obviosuly, dis-regarding terrorism.

[Jinx]

We would have to give up our permanent seat on the UN security councl.

[DangerousMike]

because we have to make a decision now about what kind of defense our country needs in 30 years or so.

what will the world look like in 30 years?

I don't know.

best be on the safe side then.

[CzechItOut]

I wonder how the people of Denmark, Spain and Netherlands sleep at night knowing their country has no nuclear deterrent.

[SmoothRB]

Nuclear deterrent.

[The real Apache]

CzechItOut said:

I wonder how the people of Denmark, Spain and Netherlands sleep at night knowing their country has no nuclear deterrent.

[JakeS]

CzechItOut said:

I wonder how the people of Denmark, Spain and Netherlands sleep at night knowing their country has no nuclear deterrent.

None of these countries are so "fond" of America as we are. In my opinion the country Russia, Iran, NK dislike the most is the States. If your missiles can't reach them, We would make a nice half-way house

Edited by JakeS on Tuesday 4th May 13:53