What should I know about the TT 225?
What should I know about the TT 225?
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Pulse

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10,922 posts

249 months

Thursday 6th May 2010
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Looking at possibly buying a 2003 '03' TT 225. What should I look out for? It has 70k on the clock, and is up for £6750.

Lostprophet

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200 months

Friday 7th May 2010
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Solid cars far as I know. Some issues with CV gaitors and bushes... CV's are £50+ fitted. Bushes vary...

Make sure it's got service history and Bose sound! Check for cruise control and all electrics.

Pulse

Original Poster:

10,922 posts

249 months

Friday 7th May 2010
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Thanks. Do they have cambelts? If so I assume it should have been changed and will be due a change soon?

I heard that dashpods are fixed foc by Audi but I assume not on such an old car?

Fidgits

17,202 posts

260 months

Friday 7th May 2010
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yeah, will do - IIRC every 60k.

this for you or jen?

Pulse

Original Poster:

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249 months

Friday 7th May 2010
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Potentially for either. Just looking out of interest, though for not much more you can get the same age Z4.

She is also looking at something very non PH... But as it's for her, it doesn't matter.

Dr G

16,005 posts

273 months

Friday 7th May 2010
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There have been a few recent threads on TTs and S3s that cover all the main points really well.

A few for you to have a look at/read on:

Dashpods, bushes, top mounts, cam belt, water pump, springs, haldex oil, clutch master cylinder.

There's a lot of crap out there with TTs and not very much left that's been loved.

Pulse

Original Poster:

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Friday 7th May 2010
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Hmmm a lot to go wrong then!!!

Lostprophet

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Friday 7th May 2010
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Pulse said:
Hmmm a lot to go wrong then!!!
really?

Targarama

14,792 posts

314 months

Friday 7th May 2010
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Pulse said:
Hmmm a lot to go wrong then!!!
They're not that bad. Find a cherished one, ensure its a real 225 and not a 180 with twin pipes (much more kit as standard). Ensure it gets a new cambelt/water pump if it hasn't been changed recently (change at 60-70k). Make sure it has a good history with haldex oil being changed. Dashpod problem would be paid for by Audi. Other than these they are no different to any other VAG car (the odd bush, coil pack, air flow meter, diverter valve).

Fidgits

17,202 posts

260 months

Friday 7th May 2010
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Pulse said:
Hmmm a lot to go wrong then!!!
not really, my S3 had 80k on it, i easily put another 10 on without so much as a hiccup.


though, this is you, so get one with a warranty wink

AudiSport

1,499 posts

247 months

Friday 7th May 2010
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It really works on a car by car bases I guess, however I would NOT have another one as it was forever going wrong! Bushes, dash pods, springs snapping, cooling fans not working.... Buy the Z4.

Edited by AudiSport on Friday 7th May 15:29

Pulse

Original Poster:

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Friday 7th May 2010
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Targarama said:
They're not that bad. Find a cherished one, ensure its a real 225 and not a 180 with twin pipes (much more kit as standard). Ensure it gets a new cambelt/water pump if it hasn't been changed recently (change at 60-70k). Make sure it has a good history with haldex oil being changed. Dashpod problem would be paid for by Audi. Other than these they are no different to any other VAG car (the odd bush, coil pack, air flow meter, diverter valve).
Thanks for that Targ. It's definitely a 225. It's been bought in by Audi where my partner works.

Should the Haldex oil be specifically noted? How often does it need doing?

If Audi pay for the dash pod, then the other stuff is fairly small. Springs etc aren't major £££.

Is the cambelt not also on age? So may still be almost due another one?

Targarama

14,792 posts

314 months

Friday 7th May 2010
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Pulse said:
Targarama said:
They're not that bad. Find a cherished one, ensure its a real 225 and not a 180 with twin pipes (much more kit as standard). Ensure it gets a new cambelt/water pump if it hasn't been changed recently (change at 60-70k). Make sure it has a good history with haldex oil being changed. Dashpod problem would be paid for by Audi. Other than these they are no different to any other VAG car (the odd bush, coil pack, air flow meter, diverter valve).
Thanks for that Targ. It's definitely a 225. It's been bought in by Audi where my partner works.

Should the Haldex oil be specifically noted? How often does it need doing?

If Audi pay for the dash pod, then the other stuff is fairly small. Springs etc aren't major £££.

Is the cambelt not also on age? So may still be almost due another one?
I think Haldex oil was every 20k and oil + filter every 40k (but could be wrong, our TT was sold on 4 years ago). Yes, cambelts are affected by age - depends really on use. Make sure water pump and tensioners are done at the same time (classic VAG 1.8T cambelt setup).

The TT is a nice car, but our MKV Golf GTi is a much more fun steer when pressing on. The Z4 beats both for fun.

Pulse

Original Poster:

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Friday 7th May 2010
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I have a Z4 Coupe already and love it. This will most likely be our second car, so I suppose it doesn't have to be the best in the handling department. I'm still trying to convince her to get it. She wants a Tigra!

Gren

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283 months

Friday 7th May 2010
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Sold my 7 yr old 225 last year with almost the same on the clock.

Over the 7 years I had both arbs replaced, indicator relay, coolant sensor and had the cambelt (and all the rest) done at around 55k. 2 coil packs also went over that time.

Just before I sold it I also had the 2 radiator fans replaced and both rear springs replaced. One had snapped, fairly common aparently.

In all, not that expensive to run (until those final few months) but I got the feeling at around that mileage things were starting to wear out.

Pulse

Original Poster:

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Friday 7th May 2010
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Can you give me an indication of prices for each of those?

My other half works for an Audi dealership so I'm hoping fixes would be a bit cheaper if anything breaks. Also half price servicing.

stellacheersmate

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200 months

Friday 7th May 2010
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I have had my TT 225 for just over 4 years now. 51 plate purchased with 68K on the clock and now has 116K. In that time I have done, 2 coil packs (90K & 103K), indicator relay (70K), haldex oil & filter change (~100K), discs & pads on all 4 corners (109K). At 109K the cambelt failed, when test driven @ 68K the clutch was slipping so I was promised a new clutch and cambelt, cambelt didn't actually get done frown 20 new valves & stem seals, new water pump (the existing took over an hour to fish out pieces of the plastic fins), rollers, tensioner and cambelt. As I took it off the axel stands, both front springs broke at the same time so they needed replacing. (uncanny breaks, both identical)

Known common faults are:

- Coil packs can be flakey, even OEM. Audi changed from Hitachi boltdowns to *forgotten the name* pop ins that are of inferior quality. Known VAG 1.8T component failure.
- Dashpods. A lot of issues here, so much so that BBC watchdog got involved and Audi agreed to replace dashpods with specific criteria. Research this. You'll know right away as the petrol & temp guages will read generally 1/4 over their actuals. Sometimes, rpm & speedo guages will play up but on the whole its temp & petrol.
- Rear springs. Known to fail. Other than my front failures, I have not heard of fronts breaking.
- Temp sender. Known VAG 1.8T component failure.
- Cambelts. Mis-print in the Audi manual said 80K, but is actually, as previously stated, more like 5 years 40 - 50K. £350 @ an indy. Rollers, tensioner & water pump IMHO must be changed with the belt as the belt is not exclusivly responsible for failures. I have heard of all being causes of tears.
- Drivers door sensor. You know that it has this problem as the window will not drop when opened. I forget the cost of the part but something around £70 + labour
- Water pump. Known issue with plastic impellors breakng up. This should and must be changed with the cambelt. Why? Known to seize and lock cambelt.

That about sums up the known common faults. Yes, it look like an unreliable car, but it really is not. Ask any technically minded person about their car and I;m sure the list will be as, if not longer.

02 plates onwards were facelift models. AFAIK, new grill, 20mm suspension drop and some other very minor changes.

Personally, I would whole heartly recommend the 225TT.

Edited by stellacheersmate on Friday 7th May 22:47

Dr G

16,005 posts

273 months

Saturday 8th May 2010
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02 changes weren't that minor, full leather became standard on 225s, all aluminium gear knob and 18" wheels as well as newer stereos.

Targarama

14,792 posts

314 months

Saturday 8th May 2010
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Dr G said:
02 changes weren't that minor, full leather became standard on 225s, all aluminium gear knob and 18" wheels as well as newer stereos.
Our 2000 my 225 had leather as std. I know as we would never pay for leather.

Pulse

Original Poster:

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249 months

Saturday 8th May 2010
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Well, that one has gone. Thinking of holding out for a 3.2 instead...