Handling ?
Handling ?
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DJ8226

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401 posts

202 months

Friday 7th May 2010
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Put the S through its paces a little today, part of the getting to know it process! To be honest I was a little disappointed. Is it normal for it to be a bit of bumpy ride and is tramlining common? Also at around 70-80mph I was finding it a little unsafe and hard to keep in a straight line on a pretty good bit of straight road. I appreciate its not going to be as smooth as my Mondeo but I thought these cars had pretty good road manners and half the fun was in the handling? Am I expecting too much from a 20 year old motor ? Did wonder if its the tracking plus the suspension is original too. What do you seasoned pros think? Any recommendations much appreciated? Thanks Damon

merky300

189 posts

226 months

Friday 7th May 2010
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I would probably have a look at the bulkhead bearng and the universal joints in the steering. Wear in these could cause the symptoms you describe.

Tony

DJ8226

Original Poster:

401 posts

202 months

Friday 7th May 2010
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Thanks Tony but its not that as the steering is tight with no play evident at the steering wheel or UJ's.

Edited by DJ8226 on Friday 7th May 18:52

mep12345

2,061 posts

230 months

Friday 7th May 2010
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You need to check the camber, and tracking. The tracking being out slightly can in my experience make a massive difference to tram lining and ability to hold straight. Also for the camber - if it is not set up evenly it can result (again in my experience) in pull to one side or the other.

Secondly check the ride height as if out this can make a difference to bump steer as the steering rack is only just off the middle of the wheels and if set above (I think this is the right way around) then bump steer can be exaggerated.

Added to that what is the state of the springs/shocks.

IMO what you describe is the geometry set up being out - mine did exactly this until I got it set properly and WOW what a difference it made.

HTH

Mark

ETA the instability at speed is probably ride height the front must be lower than the rear (by about 15mm at each end of outriggers) or the front lifts and introduces instability


Edited by mep12345 on Friday 7th May 19:15

Wiz

2,474 posts

243 months

Friday 7th May 2010
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Sscc can do the geometry properly and check your shocks bushes etc.
Your welcome to take mine for a spin to compare when i can get a chance to get over to you Damon.

DJ8226

Original Poster:

401 posts

202 months

Friday 7th May 2010
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Mark - think your on the money - front suspension is lower than back but suspension is 20 years old and now you mention it front tyres have uneven wear pointing to tracking and camber as you suggest. Alan I may take your advice and take it up to SSCC for them to check over as back brakes and handbrake also need servicing, plus think there is still some air in the clutch slave as reverse can be a bit of a pain and spirited changes are not that smooth. Would appreciate a test drive. Are you free on Sunday weather permitting? I can come to you or vice versa. Thanks for your advice guys. I just want it sorted and patience in such matters as this is not my strong point.

Gerald-TVR

4,896 posts

226 months

Friday 7th May 2010
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How old are the tyres? Could it be stiff side walls making problems worst

DJ8226

Original Poster:

401 posts

202 months

Friday 7th May 2010
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Hi Norman tyres are RE71's and are legal but not that much life left in them. This is starting to sound expensive but I did budget an extra £1k when I bought the car so may be time to committ and get these niggly bits done. Plus MOT in July yikes so may be worth SSCC casting there expert eyes over it sooner rather than later, plus I want to drive it and enjoy it frown

dougc

8,241 posts

294 months

Friday 7th May 2010
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I did tyres (ER300) suspension (Gaz Gold) and drop links (shpub) all in one go a couple of years ago then got the geomentry done properly.

Worth every penny. The difference is black and white.

Gerald-TVR

4,896 posts

226 months

Friday 7th May 2010
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Hi Damon

This might help!!

Jaye R

790 posts

254 months

Saturday 8th May 2010
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Damon

Where in the country are you based (for test drive)?

Cheers
Jaye

Wiz

2,474 posts

243 months

Saturday 8th May 2010
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I'm up at Newby Hall for cars in the park Sunday but could call in on the way home Damon.
Hope the weather improves for it.

DJ8226

Original Poster:

401 posts

202 months

Saturday 8th May 2010
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Alan yes free in the afternoon. You have my number just let me know what time roughly but I am in all day so shouldn't be a problem. I am sure I will hear you arrive! Enjoy your day tomoro smile

Jaye - I am at Market Weighton (mid way between Hull and York) think you are at Wakefield so a bit out of your way?

Griffinr

1,017 posts

203 months

Saturday 8th May 2010
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Just a simple suggestion, but have you checked the tyre pressures? my car wandered all over the place when I bought it and although the springs and shocks were shot and the camber was out, it was the front tyres at 32 PSI that were causing most of the problem.

Rob

DJ8226

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401 posts

202 months

Sunday 9th May 2010
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Thnaks Rob will check the pressures what should they be to save me looking it up.

Jaye R

790 posts

254 months

Sunday 9th May 2010
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Damon

I know Market Weighton - will have to get over to you sometime.

Are you going to SCH2010? If so, why not join us on the 'oop north' convoy - meeting at Ferrybridge on the Saturday morning.

Cheers
Jaye

DJ8226

Original Poster:

401 posts

202 months

Sunday 9th May 2010
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Hi Jaye not at SCH this year but yes would be good to meet up some time. Drove Alan (Wiz) S today what a difference to mine, gear change is smooth, and ride is superb. Thanks again Alan. I will let you all know how I get on.