Head Gasket?
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StuartGGray

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Friday 7th May 2010
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Lost some water from the cooling system on my Mondeo 1.8 16v. Some steam coming from exhaust. Engine temps normal. Slight stumble on cold start, clears in seconds. No water leaks visible.
Does this sound like the Head Gasket has gone? I've had a quote of £450 to replace it, which considering it's a '98 Mondeo probably isn't worth fixing.
Would something like K-seal keep it going for a bit longer while I raise funds for another car?

sherman

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241 months

Saturday 8th May 2010
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Check the oil cap do you have 'mayo' on the underside of cap or on the dipstick?

If so it sounds like there is a water leak somewhere emulsifying the oil.

StuartGGray

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Saturday 8th May 2010
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No mayo at all. Oil is clean, filler cap is clean, expansion tank is clean.

alfettagtv2000

220 posts

223 months

Saturday 8th May 2010
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You can get a coolant leak into a cylinder only - this would give no obvious symptoms unless major, then coolant would force itself past the rad cap and steam from exhaust.

jagracer

8,248 posts

262 months

Saturday 8th May 2010
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Best way to tell without pulling it apart is to get a sniff test done on it.

StuartGGray

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Sunday 9th May 2010
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It is definately the head gasket. Engine wouldn't turn over today, so I pulled out the plugs and turned the engine over. Water everywhere. Put plugs back in, runs great but with steam out the pipe.
It is not worth fixing, but does anyone reckon that one of those additives like Kseal would be worth a shot to keep the bugger running a bit longer?

pringle1988

242 posts

210 months

Tuesday 11th May 2010
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StuartGGray said:
It is definately the head gasket. Engine wouldn't turn over today, so I pulled out the plugs and turned the engine over. Water everywhere. Put plugs back in, runs great but with steam out the pipe.
It is not worth fixing, but does anyone reckon that one of those additives like Kseal would be worth a shot to keep the bugger running a bit longer?
I havent used it personally but somebody I work with has, I cant remember exactly what product it was, il find out on Wednesday though. You had to do something like run the engine for 1 hour, then leave it 1 hour, then run it again.
It worked for them and is still fine now after 3 months.

StuartGGray

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Saturday 15th May 2010
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pringle1988 said:
StuartGGray said:
It is definately the head gasket. Engine wouldn't turn over today, so I pulled out the plugs and turned the engine over. Water everywhere. Put plugs back in, runs great but with steam out the pipe.
It is not worth fixing, but does anyone reckon that one of those additives like Kseal would be worth a shot to keep the bugger running a bit longer?
I havent used it personally but somebody I work with has, I cant remember exactly what product it was, il find out on Wednesday though. You had to do something like run the engine for 1 hour, then leave it 1 hour, then run it again.
It worked for them and is still fine now after 3 months.
Any chance of finding out what it was? I would be obliged if you did.

StuartGGray

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Monday 24th May 2010
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Well, the K-Seal arrived on the 10th. It seems to be holding. This is now the 24th. Steam has stopped coming out of the exhaust. I am not having to fill up the expansion tank. ~~~~There is a sound of gas escaping from the left hand side of the engine. Sounds like the exhaust system, but maybe the head gasket is blowing to atmosphere. I will keep you informed.
I intend doing the ultimate test. Towing my caravan. If that does'nt show a fked engine, nothing will.

Edited by StuartGGray on Monday 24th May 02:50

Tunku

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Friday 23rd July 2010
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Update to this - The steam out of the exhaust is still no longer, and further to that, I have not had to top up the water yet. That is quite a while now.
I do have an oil leak, which may be part of the problem, and if I go past a close building on my near side with my window down, I can hear a slight blow type noise. I haven't looked to see what it is yet. Power seems to be normal.
As an aside, I've rebuilt my old caravan, saved myself £3000 by doing it according to a couple of quotes from caravan repairers. The point of this statement is I am about to drag the caravan about the country using this car with the blown headgasket. In three days time, actually. We'll see how I get on.

Gareth350

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205 months

Friday 23rd July 2010
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You used the correct sealer by using k-seal! I sell it in my shop & all the trade boys, mechanics & car sales use it as their little 'trick of the trade' & call it 'a head gasket in a bottle'.
Can even be used for a cracked block! One mechanic used it on his own car as temp measure for just this problem, with a view to doing the job properly, when he got time. 60k & 4 years later, still holding strong! biggrin

Tunku

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Friday 23rd July 2010
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Gareth350 said:
You used the correct sealer by using k-seal! I sell it in my shop & all the trade boys, mechanics & car sales use it as their little 'trick of the trade' & call it 'a head gasket in a bottle'.
Can even be used for a cracked block! One mechanic used it on his own car as temp measure for just this problem, with a view to doing the job properly, when he got time. 60k & 4 years later, still holding strong! biggrin
Well, that's what I'm hoping, getting time enough to save up for another car. I used to run Volvos, had some bad times work wise, had to run cheap diesels, then this Ford. Things are beginning to stabilize, so looking for a Volvo again to tow the caravan. V70 would do. K-Seal has held so far, water temps are a bit up, maybe 1 or 2 degrees but that is probably because of the thermostat. I have a spare if the temps suddenly go spastic.

Tunku

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Friday 30th July 2010
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Well, I'm back safe and sound. Car performed faultlessly. I'll be back out next week.

Tunku

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Wednesday 11th August 2010
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Tunku said:
Well, I'm back safe and sound. Car performed faultlessly. I'll be back out next week.
Well, looky here. Been back out towing for another week. These Zetecs are pretty bomb proof eh?
I'll probably be out again next week. Towing a caravan again.