Is there a breakdown of votes by country yet?
Discussion
Andy Zarse said:
physprof said:
Zod said:
Short answer: England told Brown and Labour to f
k off back to the Celtic fringes.
FFS!k off back to the Celtic fringes.and the tories are so attractively successful outside their 'fringe'?
Idiot.
They claim it and a basic tennant of Cameron has been his pseudo one-nation'ism, and in reality they can't deliver outside a narrow fringe that is not representative of the UK that they claim to appeal too.
FFS, take a look at NI - he went over there the other day and they got chuff all.....
take your disapointment that the tories failed to get a majority somewhere else.
physprof said:
Andy Zarse said:
physprof said:
Zod said:
Short answer: England told Brown and Labour to fk off back to the Celtic fringes.
FFS!k off back to the Celtic fringes.and the tories are so attractively successful outside their 'fringe'?
Idiot.
They claim it and a basic tennant of Cameron has been his pseudo one-nation'ism, and in reality they can't deliver outside a narrow fringe that is not representative of the UK that they claim to appeal too.
FFS, take a look at NI - he went over there the other day and they got chuff all.....
take your disapointment that the tories failed to get a majority somewhere else.
The Tories did increase their share of the votes, and seats, in Wales. No real change in Scotland still one seat, they still talk about Maggie there, ffs that's twenty years ago, so no real surprise there.
So more national depth to their vote than the rest I would suggest. Particularly if you look beyond seats and look at the number of votes cast for them.
physprof said:
there was an explicit tie up between the old UUP and Conservatives to form some hybrid/chimera entity and it go roundly rejected in each seat.
so the conservative message was ignored there.
More a rejection of the UUP than the Tories I would wager. That's being happening for some time in terms of a move to the DUP across the piece, E Belfast aside. There has not been any meaningful mainland political presence in NI for years. Hence, the SDLP Labour tie in and UUP Tory options.so the conservative message was ignored there.
The West Lothian question is most definitly an issue now.
The Tories have a majority of the English seats.
But a Labour/Lib Dem/SNP/PC coalition is a posibility which could impose legislation that effects only England (in areas where powers have been devolved) against the wishes of the majority of English MPs.
The Tories have a majority of the English seats.
But a Labour/Lib Dem/SNP/PC coalition is a posibility which could impose legislation that effects only England (in areas where powers have been devolved) against the wishes of the majority of English MPs.
JagLover said:
The West Lothian question is most definitly an issue now.
The Tories have a majority of the English seats.
But a Labour/Lib Dem/SNP/PC coalition is a posibility which could impose legislation that effects only England (in areas where powers have been devolved) against the wishes of the majority of English MPs.
Spot on fella. I've been telling people about this for weeks. Fundamentally there is a Conservative mandate in England being overridden by the Scots/Irish/Welch. All of whom have their own parliaments in one form or another. This was also the case in 2005.The Tories have a majority of the English seats.
But a Labour/Lib Dem/SNP/PC coalition is a posibility which could impose legislation that effects only England (in areas where powers have been devolved) against the wishes of the majority of English MPs.
ellroy said:
JagLover said:
The West Lothian question is most definitly an issue now.
The Tories have a majority of the English seats.
But a Labour/Lib Dem/SNP/PC coalition is a posibility which could impose legislation that effects only England (in areas where powers have been devolved) against the wishes of the majority of English MPs.
Spot on fella. I've been telling people about this for weeks. Fundamentally there is a Conservative mandate in England being overridden by the Scots/Irish/Welch. All of whom have their own parliaments in one form or another. This was also the case in 2005.The Tories have a majority of the English seats.
But a Labour/Lib Dem/SNP/PC coalition is a posibility which could impose legislation that effects only England (in areas where powers have been devolved) against the wishes of the majority of English MPs.
Oh, for a political party that cared about the country rather than itself.........
ellroy said:
JagLover said:
The West Lothian question is most definitly an issue now.
The Tories have a majority of the English seats.
But a Labour/Lib Dem/SNP/PC coalition is a posibility which could impose legislation that effects only England (in areas where powers have been devolved) against the wishes of the majority of English MPs.
Spot on fella. I've been telling people about this for weeks. Fundamentally there is a Conservative mandate in England being overridden by the Scots/Irish/Welch. All of whom have their own parliaments in one form or another. This was also the case in 2005.The Tories have a majority of the English seats.
But a Labour/Lib Dem/SNP/PC coalition is a posibility which could impose legislation that effects only England (in areas where powers have been devolved) against the wishes of the majority of English MPs.
It's been a running sore with the enlightened English since 1997. The medja, BBC especially, does not highlight it. What pi55es me off beyond belief is that the Tories will not engage the matter despite being the English Party in everything but name.
The Scots vote Labour because it is an anti-English thing. If they still bang on about Colluden after 250 years then Maggie appears to be as yesterday.
Puggit said:
As per the title, has anyone seen a breakdown of how Wales/Scotland/England voted yet?
The largest vote in England for the 2005 election was comfortably Tory - so what was it last night...?
The difference was in the 70,000 mark in 2005. The difference now is more like 3 millions.The largest vote in England for the 2005 election was comfortably Tory - so what was it last night...?
The margin in 2005 was tiny, the margin now is considerable.
Edited by Halb on Saturday 8th May 10:35
Saddle bum said:
The Scots vote Labour because it is an anti-English thing. If they still bang on about Colluden after 250 years then Maggie appears to be as yesterday.
Culloden was a battle between the British and Jacobites... not Scots and English,and no...they don't "bang on about it".
Edited by RDM on Saturday 8th May 10:44
RDM said:
Saddle bum said:
The Scots vote Labour because it is an anti-English thing. If they still bang on about Colluden after 250 years then Maggie appears to be as yesterday.
Culloden was a battle between the British and Jacobites... not Scots and English,and no...they don't "bang on about it".
[footnote]Edited by RDM on Saturday 8th May 10:44otnote]
Even though I am English with a healthy splash of Scot blood the fact 40% of England voted for the tories and the BBC election map is pretty much a sea of blue with little Asian,Chav,Northerners with a Maggie hatred red islands is a major issue that needs to highlighted and taken up.
Dr Phibes said:
Even though I am English with a healthy splash of Scot blood the fact 40% of England voted for the tories and the BBC election map is pretty much a sea of blue with little Asian,Chav,Northerners with a Maggie hatred red islands is a major issue that needs to highlighted and taken up.
The constituency map is a lot more even. The Torys need to appeal the the large urban areas more, in the North and the London area.Gassing Station | News, Politics & Economics | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff