What car!! (sorry) for one of those poor student types!
What car!! (sorry) for one of those poor student types!
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doodles19

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2,201 posts

203 months

Sunday 9th May 2010
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Hey guys, hope you all had a great weekend drink.

As it stands at the moment, I am looking to get a nice new (ish) car at the end of summer... Harahh!.

However, being an insanely poor student my budget is somewhat hugely limited.

My current favorite is a Peugeot 106 rallye, as it seems to be cheap, fairly quick, insurance is a lot, but it all helps towards a lovely ncb and something tasty when I'm 21, oh and I nearly forgot the awesome handling smile, lift-off oversteer-tastic!.

However they seem to be on the rise price wise as of late, so if anyone could suggest something primarily interesting, but relatively cheap to insure, (no ncb at the moment but been driving for 2 years as a named driver, and no, it was not a case of fronting. smile) and fairly reliable, that would be brilliant smile.

Oh and I'm sorry this is another what car thread, my bad, have a cyber pint as consolation smilebeer.



MrFlibbles

7,794 posts

313 months

Sunday 9th May 2010
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Fiesta Zetec S?

I've just got rid of one and it was genuinely one of the most fun cars I've ever had!

Wattsie

1,161 posts

231 months

Sunday 9th May 2010
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MrFlibbles said:
Fiesta Zetec S?

I've just got rid of one and it was genuinely one of the most fun cars I've ever had!
They are very good little cars...

Ford Puma?

doodles19

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Sunday 9th May 2010
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Are you talking about the mk5? People who own them seem to have only good things to say about them!

I was also thinking about looking at them, but the thing that has put me off so far is the fact that 95% of them seem to have rusted arches or/as well as being ragged to within an inch of their life by some chav who has ruined it with terrible modifications.


Papa Hotel

12,760 posts

212 months

Sunday 9th May 2010
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Saxo VTR! I'm sure this'll be the only nod for the VTR but if you can find an unmolested one, why the fk not?

Wattsie

1,161 posts

231 months

Sunday 9th May 2010
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doodles19 said:
Are you talking about the mk5? People who own them seem to have only good things to say about them!

I was also thinking about looking at them, but the thing that has put me off so far is the fact that 95% of them seem to have rusted arches or/as well as being ragged to within an inch of their life by some chav who has ruined it with terrible modifications.
My mate recently got a non-chavved one, and I've got the shopping model... the rust is getting bad on mine (year or so older than his), but if you look carefully enough, you can find a good one...

Having replaced the bushes and suspension arms in his, it's been transformed to have incredibly tight handling, so it may be worth keeping some repairs in mind when bargaining a price... But like I said, a Zetec S is a very good car smile

doodles19

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Sunday 9th May 2010
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Papa Hotel said:
Saxo VTR! I'm sure this'll be the only nod for the VTR but if you can find an unmolested one, why the fk not?
Was also looking at the possibilities of having one of these, but unfortunately due to some silly people once again, the insurance is massively high as a fair few have obviously been involved in shunts.

Also, not sure I would enjoy everyone calling me a boy racer or thinking of me as one... friend of mine has a (badly) modded saxo with a fairly loud exhaust, just going out with him for a short run I found people tend to give you nasty looks, also, that thing attracts more people in badly modded corsas and such than a cruise at a mcdonalds carpark on a friday night.


Which is a shame really as I've also herd good things about these. Minus the tiny pedal box smile




Edited by doodles19 on Sunday 9th May 17:38

anonymous-user

84 months

Sunday 9th May 2010
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Mk2 Punto Sportings are great little cars! not as quick or such a good handler as the Rallye but the 1.2 16v engine loves to be revved and the insurance is lower too!

doodles19

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Sunday 9th May 2010
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Wattsie said:
doodles19 said:
Are you talking about the mk5? People who own them seem to have only good things to say about them!

I was also thinking about looking at them, but the thing that has put me off so far is the fact that 95% of them seem to have rusted arches or/as well as being ragged to within an inch of their life by some chav who has ruined it with terrible modifications.
My mate recently got a non-chavved one, and I've got the shopping model... the rust is getting bad on mine (year or so older than his), but if you look carefully enough, you can find a good one...

Having replaced the bushes and suspension arms in his, it's been transformed to have incredibly tight handling, so it may be worth keeping some repairs in mind when bargaining a price... But like I said, a Zetec S is a very good car smile
Thanks smile, any idea what a relatively decent one of these is going for nowadays?

Oh and in answer to your previous suggestion, the 1.7 puma would simply kill me on insurance, and I didn't see the point in going for one of the smaller engined ones.

My budget is super super bargain basement, 2K being the absolute maximum for the car alone.

Edited by doodles19 on Sunday 9th May 17:43

snotrag

15,703 posts

241 months

Sunday 9th May 2010
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doodles19 said:
My budget is super super bargain basement
doodles19 said:
2K being the absolute maximum for the car alone.
Er... your about 10X out in terms of what is super super bargain basement price for a working car.

2 grand, the worlds, almost, your oyster!


doodles19

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Sunday 9th May 2010
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snotrag said:
doodles19 said:
My budget is super super bargain basement
doodles19 said:
2K being the absolute maximum for the car alone.
Er... your about 10X out in terms of what is super super bargain basement price for a working car.

2 grand, the worlds, almost, your oyster!
Haha, by absolutely maximum I mean I would much prefer to spend around the 1k-1.5k mark.

I have been playing that brilliant game of trawling the classifieds and seeing what I can get, there are so so many lovely cars that would be brilliant for that price, its just insurance absolutely kills anything that would be remotely fun... was looking at e30 318is's, cheapest quote was 2k. Kindly bore off.

It is super irritating that insurance is so bad for younger people, despite driving for 2 years, IAM training, learning using roadcraft and an ex-traffic cop as an instructor. (oh and please don't think of me as a cocky little bu*ger, I still realise I have a lot to learn and that I am not an amazing driver at all in the grand scheme of things).

It would just be nice to have something that is actually capable of getting up to motorway speeds without hassle etc. After driving an exige a few mercs as well as my dads car, it is quite the disappointment to then return to a 1.2 wobble mobile.

Edited by doodles19 on Sunday 9th May 17:56

L1AM

3,560 posts

204 months

Sunday 9th May 2010
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Hmmmm...

..MX-5?

(It was going to happen sooner or later)

Papa Hotel

12,760 posts

212 months

Sunday 9th May 2010
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L1AM said:
Hmmmm...

..MX-5?

(It was going to happen sooner or later)
I don't think the OP is a student hairdresser.

doodles19

Original Poster:

2,201 posts

203 months

Sunday 9th May 2010
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Papa Hotel said:
L1AM said:
Hmmmm...

..MX-5?

(It was going to happen sooner or later)
I don't think the OP is a student hairdresser.
Haha, could not have said it better myself.

Also had a look insurance wise for these, even the poverty spec 1.6 gets me a lovely 4k quote... brilliant.

hugodc

65 posts

208 months

Sunday 9th May 2010
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106gti
i was in same boat as you 10months ago couldnt find a rallye cheap enough, gtis are cheaper to buy, faster and only a little bit more to insure, they seem to be growing in popularity at uni. Just be prepared to fix the odd thing but that also applies to the rallye too

doodles19

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2,201 posts

203 months

Sunday 9th May 2010
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Not going so well is this! haha.

There just seems to be such a terribly limited choice of cars for someone of my age, being:

Saxo - vtr

Fiesta - mk5

Clio

Corsa

Peugeot - 106, 206, 205.

VW - Polos, Lupo, tiny engined Golf.

Punto.

Alfa - 145

Most of which seem to be either uninspiring or unattainable due to insurance.






my best bets atm seem to be:

106 gti/rallye.

Saxo vtr.

Mk5 Fiesta zetec s.








Edited by doodles19 on Sunday 9th May 18:16

snotrag

15,703 posts

241 months

Sunday 9th May 2010
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Get a nice 3dr 306. Either a 1.9diesel or preferablly one of the petrol engined 'warm' ones, an XS, or an XSi. There pretty low insurance groupings, dirt cheap to run and fix, but importantly although they are not raging power machines there still really nice to drive.

Or a 1.4 Puma would be good too. not fast, but again, at least its still nice to drive.


Wattsie

1,161 posts

231 months

Sunday 9th May 2010
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doodles19 said:
Wattsie said:
doodles19 said:
Are you talking about the mk5? People who own them seem to have only good things to say about them!

I was also thinking about looking at them, but the thing that has put me off so far is the fact that 95% of them seem to have rusted arches or/as well as being ragged to within an inch of their life by some chav who has ruined it with terrible modifications.
My mate recently got a non-chavved one, and I've got the shopping model... the rust is getting bad on mine (year or so older than his), but if you look carefully enough, you can find a good one...

Having replaced the bushes and suspension arms in his, it's been transformed to have incredibly tight handling, so it may be worth keeping some repairs in mind when bargaining a price... But like I said, a Zetec S is a very good car smile
Thanks smile, any idea what a relatively decent one of these is going for nowadays?

Oh and in answer to your previous suggestion, the 1.7 puma would simply kill me on insurance, and I didn't see the point in going for one of the smaller engined ones.

My budget is super super bargain basement, 2K being the absolute maximum for the car alone.

Edited by doodles19 on Sunday 9th May 17:43
Mates one was up for £2,700, traded a £600 Clio against it, but he's spent a good £300 getting it up to the standard it is now...

For £2000 maximum, you'd be looking at a fairly ropey Zetec S unless you found a properly rare bargain, as it'd probably need some work anyway...

For £2000 max on the fun Ford front, a 1.6 Puma could be had, or like I said, a good bargain on an early Phase 1 Zetec S...

Have you tried Autotrader for Zetec Ss and Pumas?

doodles19

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203 months

Sunday 9th May 2010
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Yeah that's what I thought you were going to say regarding the mk5 zetec s that is, just a little out of my price range me thinks.

I am now thinking wether it might be worth looking at something interesting and nice to look at compared to something built to be specifically fast, then save for a nicer turbo nutter as and when I can afford it.

Can anyone think of anything quirky that could provide me with a few years enjoyment smile?

doodles19

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203 months

Sunday 9th May 2010
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Old golf?

Polo coupe?

I would love a classic mini but they seem to be extremely pricey atm.

Old MG or the likes? Anyone know whether they would be do-able insurance wise?


Cheers guys for your help once again, much appreciated.