import advice - Royal Enfield
Discussion
Hi guys
I hav kind of been "given" a new Royal Enfield from an Indian friend based in Delhi. He is sending it to me next month. Only issue is it is an Indian model and therefore will not have EC approval.
I have been reading that I will have to get it approved by inspection - similar to a SVA type certifcate. Think its called a MAC certificate.
Anyone ever done anything like this?
Does it mean I will get a Q plate?
I am guessing the tyres, brakes and lights will be the main things checked plus possibly emissions. Cant be too much of a problem as I know you can actually buy the same models in the UK through a dealer
Any help would be appreciated
Cheers
Simon
I hav kind of been "given" a new Royal Enfield from an Indian friend based in Delhi. He is sending it to me next month. Only issue is it is an Indian model and therefore will not have EC approval.
I have been reading that I will have to get it approved by inspection - similar to a SVA type certifcate. Think its called a MAC certificate.
Anyone ever done anything like this?
Does it mean I will get a Q plate?
I am guessing the tyres, brakes and lights will be the main things checked plus possibly emissions. Cant be too much of a problem as I know you can actually buy the same models in the UK through a dealer
Any help would be appreciated
Cheers
Simon
This thread has some useful thoughts:
http://www.indiamike.com/india/chai-and-chat-f73/f...
Otherwise, I would contact the official UK importers:
http://www.watsonian-squire.com/
and ask for their advice. Chances are you'll need a few UK specific bits from them anyway, so I'd guess they'd be happy to help, and will definitely have a very good idea of what's involved.
HTH
http://www.indiamike.com/india/chai-and-chat-f73/f...
Otherwise, I would contact the official UK importers:
http://www.watsonian-squire.com/
and ask for their advice. Chances are you'll need a few UK specific bits from them anyway, so I'd guess they'd be happy to help, and will definitely have a very good idea of what's involved.
HTH
Hooli said:
You sure? It's only the 'Electra' you can buy here now due to emissions but I think they still make the older ones over there.
That's correct, the electras built the Indian market are different. I recently rode an Indian spec Electra which was a year old and a wreck, it had right hand gear change, drum brakes - well actually no brakes! Kick start, the electric start didnt work and had more rust on it that normal metal! And... It was fillping brilliant! Rode it all over Salisbury Plain, on and off road, and only a puncture stopped it!You will get it in the country and get it going but remember whereas the new electras here are now semi-modern bikes that look old; the Indian Eletras are old bikes - 50's at best engineering - and will need constant fettling! I love all that stuff, but plenty of people don't!
Hooli said:
You got your models right Twit?
Electra is the fuel injected left foot change version of the Bullet.
The older Bullets are as you describe.
DOH!!! Actually thats right, they were Bullets!! Stupid me!Electra is the fuel injected left foot change version of the Bullet.
The older Bullets are as you describe.
But I do know the Electra's sold here are different from those in India, as you have said!!
Hi, I rode a 2005 electra around india and nepal, with the left hand gear change/right hand brake.
This is but one of many models now manufactured in india. The bullet bike has a few sub divisions, including the electra.
I'm not sure what the differences are indian/uk spec. However I'm sure the main one would be emissions. (and to be honest I'm sure they will do the bare minimum to make them uk legal, possibly even the company importing them does the modifications rather than royal enfield themselves.)
Whatever needs to be done, it will all be doable dirt cheap while the bike is in india, if you can find someone with the experience who knows what needs to be done. Probably minimum 10 times the price if you get it over here and have to do it. (not joking on the mark up, you could get a complete engine rebuild for about 7000-10000 rupees/just over 100 quid).
Hope this helps!
This is but one of many models now manufactured in india. The bullet bike has a few sub divisions, including the electra.
I'm not sure what the differences are indian/uk spec. However I'm sure the main one would be emissions. (and to be honest I'm sure they will do the bare minimum to make them uk legal, possibly even the company importing them does the modifications rather than royal enfield themselves.)
Whatever needs to be done, it will all be doable dirt cheap while the bike is in india, if you can find someone with the experience who knows what needs to be done. Probably minimum 10 times the price if you get it over here and have to do it. (not joking on the mark up, you could get a complete engine rebuild for about 7000-10000 rupees/just over 100 quid).
Hope this helps!
Hi
I have recently bought a new Royal Enfield in India from a Dealer and have imported it to UK, it is now on UK plates. There are a few things to know about the best way to do this . Firstly forget all the nonsence that the factory put out there, its there to protect them and stop you doing it.
The facts are :
1: I bought my Bullet 500 Efi for £1500 the same bike is £5400 in UK
2: The shipping cost me £460 from India to Uk
3: The Customs "charge" was £100
4: Re-crating and Customs verification £200
The Rules
1: No dealer will sell you an unregistered bike ( against franchise agreement)
2: There is a blanket ban of export of secondhand bikes from India, without an NOC (No objection certificate)
3: An NOC is obtained from the police who will check with the factory for any objections before issue
4: The Factory will object
5: The Police will issue an NOC if you pay them their "fee" , this allows export
6: The bike must be drained of all fluids and the battery removed.
7: It will then be shipped
8: On arrival in Uk, you apply for a VIN Number £45
9: You take the bike to a VOSA test station and get a conformity centificate
10 Send this to DVLA and get a V5 and British Plates
Job done........................
The bike is slightly different from the Uk bike as it has a side grille for hte pillion passenger ( girls sit sideways in India)
It is a time consuming process exporting from India, but is possible and you will get a half price bike. It may be easier to export from Bangladesh who dont have the issue with the NOC or a restriction on export of second hand bikes
Royal Enfield make a lot of money from the EC and Uk market, they protect their dealers in this way. If they sold the bikes at UK price in India they would have no sales, as the public could not afford them ( you can get a good new car for £5000) .
India is a friendly country but seems to be corrupt, police and customs officers seem to add to their incomes by creating "charges" to allow you to export with their help, if you are thinking of doing this you will need to get a local shipping agent to help in the negotiations of the charges.
hope this helps
I have recently bought a new Royal Enfield in India from a Dealer and have imported it to UK, it is now on UK plates. There are a few things to know about the best way to do this . Firstly forget all the nonsence that the factory put out there, its there to protect them and stop you doing it.
The facts are :
1: I bought my Bullet 500 Efi for £1500 the same bike is £5400 in UK
2: The shipping cost me £460 from India to Uk
3: The Customs "charge" was £100
4: Re-crating and Customs verification £200
The Rules
1: No dealer will sell you an unregistered bike ( against franchise agreement)
2: There is a blanket ban of export of secondhand bikes from India, without an NOC (No objection certificate)
3: An NOC is obtained from the police who will check with the factory for any objections before issue
4: The Factory will object
5: The Police will issue an NOC if you pay them their "fee" , this allows export
6: The bike must be drained of all fluids and the battery removed.
7: It will then be shipped
8: On arrival in Uk, you apply for a VIN Number £45
9: You take the bike to a VOSA test station and get a conformity centificate
10 Send this to DVLA and get a V5 and British Plates
Job done........................
The bike is slightly different from the Uk bike as it has a side grille for hte pillion passenger ( girls sit sideways in India)
It is a time consuming process exporting from India, but is possible and you will get a half price bike. It may be easier to export from Bangladesh who dont have the issue with the NOC or a restriction on export of second hand bikes
Royal Enfield make a lot of money from the EC and Uk market, they protect their dealers in this way. If they sold the bikes at UK price in India they would have no sales, as the public could not afford them ( you can get a good new car for £5000) .
India is a friendly country but seems to be corrupt, police and customs officers seem to add to their incomes by creating "charges" to allow you to export with their help, if you are thinking of doing this you will need to get a local shipping agent to help in the negotiations of the charges.
hope this helps
Gavia said:
Why would someone join a forum, just to give advice on a 7 and a half year old thread?
To altruistically pass on some knowledge that they have learnt that may be useful to someone else one day?Either that or it is a message drop and their post is coded instructions to break into a missile silo and launch the missiles.
GMC1132 said:
Hi
I have recently bought a new Royal Enfield in India from a Dealer and have imported it to UK, it is now on UK plates. There are a few things to know about the best way to do this . Firstly forget all the nonsence that the factory put out there, its there to protect them and stop you doing it.
The facts are :
1: I bought my Bullet 500 Efi for £1500 the same bike is £5400 in UK
2: The shipping cost me £460 from India to Uk
3: The Customs "charge" was £100
4: Re-crating and Customs verification £200
The Rules
1: No dealer will sell you an unregistered bike ( against franchise agreement)
2: There is a blanket ban of export of secondhand bikes from India, without an NOC (No objection certificate)
3: An NOC is obtained from the police who will check with the factory for any objections before issue
4: The Factory will object
5: The Police will issue an NOC if you pay them their "fee" , this allows export
6: The bike must be drained of all fluids and the battery removed.
7: It will then be shipped
8: On arrival in Uk, you apply for a VIN Number £45
9: You take the bike to a VOSA test station and get a conformity centificate
10 Send this to DVLA and get a V5 and British Plates
Job done........................
The bike is slightly different from the Uk bike as it has a side grille for hte pillion passenger ( girls sit sideways in India)
It is a time consuming process exporting from India, but is possible and you will get a half price bike. It may be easier to export from Bangladesh who dont have the issue with the NOC or a restriction on export of second hand bikes
Royal Enfield make a lot of money from the EC and Uk market, they protect their dealers in this way. If they sold the bikes at UK price in India they would have no sales, as the public could not afford them ( you can get a good new car for £5000) .
India is a friendly country but seems to be corrupt, police and customs officers seem to add to their incomes by creating "charges" to allow you to export with their help, if you are thinking of doing this you will need to get a local shipping agent to help in the negotiations of the charges.
hope this helps
Hi,I have recently bought a new Royal Enfield in India from a Dealer and have imported it to UK, it is now on UK plates. There are a few things to know about the best way to do this . Firstly forget all the nonsence that the factory put out there, its there to protect them and stop you doing it.
The facts are :
1: I bought my Bullet 500 Efi for £1500 the same bike is £5400 in UK
2: The shipping cost me £460 from India to Uk
3: The Customs "charge" was £100
4: Re-crating and Customs verification £200
The Rules
1: No dealer will sell you an unregistered bike ( against franchise agreement)
2: There is a blanket ban of export of secondhand bikes from India, without an NOC (No objection certificate)
3: An NOC is obtained from the police who will check with the factory for any objections before issue
4: The Factory will object
5: The Police will issue an NOC if you pay them their "fee" , this allows export
6: The bike must be drained of all fluids and the battery removed.
7: It will then be shipped
8: On arrival in Uk, you apply for a VIN Number £45
9: You take the bike to a VOSA test station and get a conformity centificate
10 Send this to DVLA and get a V5 and British Plates
Job done........................
The bike is slightly different from the Uk bike as it has a side grille for hte pillion passenger ( girls sit sideways in India)
It is a time consuming process exporting from India, but is possible and you will get a half price bike. It may be easier to export from Bangladesh who dont have the issue with the NOC or a restriction on export of second hand bikes
Royal Enfield make a lot of money from the EC and Uk market, they protect their dealers in this way. If they sold the bikes at UK price in India they would have no sales, as the public could not afford them ( you can get a good new car for £5000) .
India is a friendly country but seems to be corrupt, police and customs officers seem to add to their incomes by creating "charges" to allow you to export with their help, if you are thinking of doing this you will need to get a local shipping agent to help in the negotiations of the charges.
hope this helps
Thanks for posting on this slightly disjointed thread. I am currently working in India and hope to return with an Enfield Classic 350 in 12 months time. It will be a year old at that stage and I can hopefully avoid some tax duties bringing it back with my other possessions.
I am interested to know if it was difficult to get the bike past the VOSA test in the UK. Did you make modifications to the bike whilst it was still in India (speedometer, tires, silencer etc?).
Also, do you know if it is easier to certify the 500cc or 350?
Thanks
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