72mm plenum
72mm plenum
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Ant.

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5,254 posts

310 months

Monday 10th May 2010
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How much difference does the fitting of a 72mm inlet plenum make?

I understand it's quite and increase over the 64mm? but how much more air can it flow?

Does it make a difference all the way through the range? or is it just at higher revs/loads?

My engine made 300brake last year without one.....

clive f

7,259 posts

262 months

Monday 10th May 2010
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not sure to be honest Ant, I changed mine for a 72mm but had no dyno proof to prove any benefits one way or the other, but I would say it will give you some gains over the 64mm, but bear in mind if you are still on the standard AFM you`ll be restricted by the size of that first.

I`m sure Spendy will be along with an accurate sentence or two shortly.hehe

Edited by clive f on Monday 10th May 19:34

Ant.

Original Poster:

5,254 posts

310 months

Monday 10th May 2010
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clive f said:
not sure to be honest Ant, I changed mine for a 72mm but had no dyno proof to prove any benefits one way or the other, but I would say it will give you some gains over the 64mm, but bear in mind if you are still on the standard AFM you`ll be restricted by the size of that first.
Come on now Clive, you know I am an Emerald laddie....


clive f

7,259 posts

262 months

Monday 10th May 2010
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Ant. said:
clive f said:
not sure to be honest Ant, I changed mine for a 72mm but had no dyno proof to prove any benefits one way or the other, but I would say it will give you some gains over the 64mm, but bear in mind if you are still on the standard AFM you`ll be restricted by the size of that first.
Come on now Clive, you know I am an Emerald laddie....
hehe sorry mate, temporary memory loss due to old age, so I`d get a 72 on there asap mate

350Matt

3,896 posts

308 months

Monday 10th May 2010
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Hi

If you've not already got a short trumpet base and large throttle then get it on as you can sort the fuelling out and make the most of it, you'll typically find the engine feels 'uncorked' and will rev more freely

Ant.

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5,254 posts

310 months

Monday 10th May 2010
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350Matt said:
Hi

If you've not already got a short trumpet base and large throttle then get it on as you can sort the fuelling out and make the most of it, you'll typically find the engine feels 'uncorked' and will rev more freely
Maybe I should have given more info, the engine has 45mm trumpet base, matched to the inlet which is also matched to V8D Stg3 heads.

spend

12,581 posts

280 months

Monday 10th May 2010
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Trumpets still blocking the way into the engine? You need the bigger throttle so the air has some room to creep over the top of the cornets then hehe

No discernible drawbacks that I know of, and the bigger bend you fit the better IMHO.

lwt

314 posts

313 months

Monday 10th May 2010
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On my 450 with mapped ECU (KMS) and a 218 cam, the 72mm plenum was worth about 15bhp and a large radius bend feeding into it was worth another 12bhp. These two are probably the best return in bhp per pound. (The general figure, I believe, is typically 100pounds=1bhp)

Ian.

Ant.

Original Poster:

5,254 posts

310 months

Monday 10th May 2010
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lwt said:
On my 450 with mapped ECU (KMS) and a 218 cam, the 72mm plenum was worth about 15bhp and a large radius bend feeding into it was worth another 12bhp. These two are probably the best return in bhp per pound. (The general figure, I believe, is typically 100pounds=1bhp)

Ian.
Thats the same cam that I have, what power did you end up making?

Ant.

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310 months

Monday 24th May 2010
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Have my plenum modified now, so we will see what happens.

I need to see what difference some other mods have made before I fit it, so it doesn't blur things......

lwt

314 posts

313 months

Monday 24th May 2010
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Ant - around 330bhp (flywheel) & 350ftlbs.

Ian.

Ant.

Original Poster:

5,254 posts

310 months

Thursday 16th June 2011
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Well, bit of a thread resurrection, but to update it.....


The 71mm plenum I tried on the car made no difference to the top end, and on the advice of Joo , the car is back on the standard plenum.

Very pleased with the results.



Plenum is in classifieds if anyone is after one.

Simon says

19,440 posts

250 months

Thursday 16th June 2011
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Ant. said:
Well, bit of a thread resurrection, but to update it.....


The 71mm plenum I tried on the car made no difference to the top end, and on the advice of Joo , the car is back on the standard plenum.

Very pleased with the results.



Plenum is in classifieds if anyone is after one.
confused was the letterbox part of the plenum just after the butterfly throat reworked too or just the bigger butterfly Ant? I am surprised but no doubt someone here will have an explanation wink

Ant.

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5,254 posts

310 months

Thursday 16th June 2011
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The plenum just has the butterfly modded, it just didnt seem to make much difference.

The car does have a very short distance between the airfilter location and the butterfly.

spend

12,581 posts

280 months

Thursday 16th June 2011
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There's only myself AFIK that has done that work to the internals, Ant was certainly shown all the places to 'hack out'. TBH most of the 72mm plenums I've seen haven't even had the throat to the air pipe chamfered! but have still shown improvements on 5 litre engines at least (maybe its the bigger inlet manifold tracts & valves that the throttle mates well with?).

I hope my linkage isn't being sold with it BTW Ant ~ that was a loaner if you recall hehe

Ant.

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310 months

Thursday 16th June 2011
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spend said:
There's only myself AFIK that has done that work to the internals, Ant was certainly shown all the places to 'hack out'. TBH most of the 72mm plenums I've seen haven't even had the throat to the air pipe chamfered! but have still shown improvements on 5 litre engines at least (maybe its the bigger inlet manifold tracts & valves that the throttle mates well with?).

I hope my linkage isn't being sold with it BTW Ant ~ that was a loaner if you recall hehe
no mate, it is safe!

TVR Beaver

2,874 posts

209 months

Thursday 16th June 2011
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spend said:
There's only myself AFIK that has done that work to the internals, Ant was certainly shown all the places to 'hack out'. TBH most of the 72mm plenums I've seen haven't even had the throat to the air pipe chamfered! but have still shown improvements on 5 litre engines at least (maybe its the bigger inlet manifold tracts & valves that the throttle mates well with?).

I hope my linkage isn't being sold with it BTW Ant ~ that was a loaner if you recall hehe
I've opened mine up... and given the pillar thing a wing type shape... Even put a chamfer on the butterfly itself as its about 3mm thick!....
Appears to work fine but it was over winter.. so can't comment on it working 'better'...

LordGrover

34,162 posts

241 months

Thursday 16th June 2011
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So... is there any more to come or have you hit a ceiling?

Ant.

Original Poster:

5,254 posts

310 months

Thursday 16th June 2011
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Not going to chase anymore for a while.....

always more to come, heads, cam etc

clive f

7,259 posts

262 months

Thursday 16th June 2011
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forgot to say earlier, thanks for the linkage you sent me Antthumbup