PH compares XF DS to V12?

[pr100]

I have always ignored diesels because the few that I have been a passenger in sounded like tractors on tickover - so I was surprised to read this PH Driven report today:

"magnificent though the latest generation of supercharged V8 is, there's been nothing to match the effortless, near-silent waftery of the old 12-pot Jags. Until last year, that is, when Jaguar introduced the third generation of its twin-turbo diesel V6 to the XF, creating the XF Diesel S. Jaguar's AJV6 diesel has always been magnificently refined, but the latest iteration is also genuinely whisper-quiet and Casanova-smooth."

Surely this can't be true? At traffic lights in my much-missed V12s, I wasn't able to tell if the engine was running. Will someone who has owned both a V12 and the XF diseisel please add a dose of reality?

[varsas]

I can only suggest that their V12 was horribly broken...or it's typical journalistic hyperbole.

[tr7v8]

The 2.7 diesel in my S-Type is very quiet. The 3.0 in the XF is even quieter. Most people even some americans just don't realise the S is diesel. Is it quieter than a V12, yes it could be. It is a long time since I rode in a V12 but I think with the leading technology in more modern cars that the diesel is the quieter.

[Simpo Two]

tr7v8 said:

The 2.7 diesel in my S-Type is very quiet.

Mine does sound somewhat taxi-ish when it's parked at tickover and you're standing by the front wheels, but inside when driving it's at least as good as the 3.0 V6 petrol I had before, possibly quieter. And as my mpg has gone up from 26 to 45, I'm laughing

[anonymous-user]

It's horsest, it's not even remotely as refined as the V12. Inside you can't hear it at tickover or steady speed, but from outside you're never in any doubt it's a diesel let alone if it's running or not like with the 5.3 V12

Dave