Do petrolheads really give a toss what a car looks like?
Do petrolheads really give a toss what a car looks like?
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rockandrollmark

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1,181 posts

253 months

Tuesday 11th May 2010
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Kinda following on from the 997 GT2RS oooooh it's dull, it just looks like a Porsche thread.

I for one appreciate the aesthetics of good car design and recognise that some models in history (Miura, 365, F40 Zonda etc) are automotive artwork, but for me how a car looks really comes second to how it performs or drives.

For example, I've been obsessing over Fisher Fury's lately, simply on the basis that they cost pocket money and would give give most things on the road a damn good thrashing on a B road, despite looking like something I made at home after a few two many pints wink

Likewise I've been trying to beat into a friend of mine recently that MX5s and Boxters are very good cars, but he won't have any of it "cos they don't look very nice"

I'm not alone in this opinion, am I?

Ayahuasca

27,584 posts

309 months

Tuesday 11th May 2010
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'Form follows function' and if it drives right it will look right.

Adam205

822 posts

212 months

Tuesday 11th May 2010
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Our perception of a good looking car comes as much from what works well functionally as anything! The fashion for big wheels came from touring cars etc needing to fit massive brakes under them, huge grills from needing large amounts of cooling, sleek bodywork from aerodynamics, flared arches from fitting wider grippier tyres etc etc

Therefore a 'good looking' car tends to be good looking because of it's function!

MGB Boy

1,749 posts

204 months

Wednesday 12th May 2010
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I'm not fussed how a car drives if it looks like a Fiat Multipla I'm not gonna touch it with a fookin barge pole!

Graham E

13,018 posts

216 months

Wednesday 12th May 2010
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Most people would call me a petrolhead. I care what cars look like - I grew up with interesting cars on my walls as a kid, I think it's an importnat part of car-ness. Many of the legend cars I used to lust after (esp as I'm an 80's child) were wild looking exotics, like the countash, TR, F40, Griffith 500, that sort of thing. I also love the 930 era 911 turbos, with their immence rear ends and general 80's shoulderpad look.

Some pople are soley bothered about speed etc, but given the same handling, speed or whatnot, 90% of poeople on here would choose the car with the better looks.

oh, and sound. Sound is more important than looks. I learned tat when I was about 8, years after I fell in love with the posters on my walls.

Ozzie Osmond

21,189 posts

276 months

Wednesday 12th May 2010
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MGB Boy said:
I'm not fussed how a car drives if it looks like a Fiat Multipla I'm not gonna touch it with a fookin barge pole!
Quite right IMO.

istoo

2,365 posts

232 months

Wednesday 12th May 2010
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Ozzie Osmond said:
MGB Boy said:
I'm not fussed how a car drives if it looks like a Fiat Multipla I'm not gonna touch it with a fookin barge pole!
Quite right IMO.
But the multipla was design entirely with the form follows function ethos, from the inside out... but it was never built to be a sports car! Thus for a functional wife car its perfect smile

madrob6

3,594 posts

250 months

Wednesday 12th May 2010
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My all time favourite car is the F40 yet plenty of people say that it looks st.

It could be that because of the cars capabilities I ignore the looks or perhaps I find beauty in the fact that the car is styled for speed rather than just to make it look pretty. It could also be that I have no taste or my love of cars is stuck in the 80s.

I don't know but I bloody want one!

redgriff500

28,982 posts

293 months

Thursday 13th May 2010
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MGB Boy said:
I'm not fussed how a car drives if it looks like a Fiat Multipla I'm not gonna touch it with a fookin barge pole!
I agree, right until I find a Multipla with an F1 engine and then sod the looks.

Similarly the best car I saw at the recent Kitcar show was a std looking Moggie with a V8 in it yum

jkracing

62 posts

213 months

Thursday 13th May 2010
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The look of the 'engineering part' of the car matter more to me, a friend of mine's dad has a Fisher Fury and the chassis looks like it's been constructed out of some old ladders.
Square cut and welded steel tube... speaks volumes about the overall effort and passion that has gone into making the car I think.

I'm a massive fan of the gumpert Apollo, simply because it looks functional, everything on the car is on it for a practical purpose and, IMO, that's the way a serious hypercar should be.

The Black Flash

13,735 posts

228 months

Thursday 13th May 2010
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rockandrollmark said:
For example, I've been obsessing over Fisher Fury's lately, simply on the basis that they cost pocket money and would give give most things on the road a damn good thrashing on a B road, despite looking like something I made at home after a few two many pints wink
Bad example IMO. Furys are great lookers I reckon:

kiteless

12,585 posts

234 months

Thursday 13th May 2010
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I think, for petrolheads like us, looks are important, but not the most important of all.

Anecdotally, we had a courtesy Alfa Brera last year while the MX-5 was being repaired after some dozy bint in a Corsa smacked it pulling out of a parking space. Anyway. Bloody lovely looking thing, in pearlescent black, 19" rims, 3.2V6. Automotive porn, and everyone bar none who saw it, loved it.

Awful to drive.

Direct yet lifeless steering, slack gearchange, and it rooooollllllled in the corners like the Jahre Viking (google it) in a force 10. Looked like Cameron Diaz, drove like Jo Brand.

It's like Sir Stirling. He's gone on record as stating that his favourite road car of all time was a Facel Vega HK500. Now, that's a challenging looking car and not to everyone's taste. But would you argue with him on its handling traits scratchchin

The Hitman

2,592 posts

240 months

Thursday 13th May 2010
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I think its a case of "six of one and half a dozen of the other"

I think Petrolheads can look past a cars looks/stereotype if the car itself is a well engineered vehicle.

Case in point =



The MX5

al1991

4,552 posts

210 months

Thursday 13th May 2010
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Less so than I used to. But since actually being on the road, and trying out more and more cars I've started to place more importance on things like the driving position, gear change, steering feel than I would have before.

I still wouldn't want to drive a minger though.

anonymous-user

84 months

Thursday 13th May 2010
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If it don't look right it ain't right.

rockandrollmark

Original Poster:

1,181 posts

253 months

Friday 14th May 2010
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5 USA said:
If it don't look right it ain't right.
I dunno, these look pretty awful, but I wouldn't mind a thrash



Likewise, R34 GTR is one fugly car (IMHO of course) but I wouldn't say no. Same goes for the other playstation brigade cars (EVOs Imprezas)

Benengo

647 posts

233 months

Friday 14th May 2010
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Ask yourself this question: When did i become a petrolhead?

If it was when you were young, before you could drive a car, then all you had to go on was aesthetics.

That said, and for me personally, the older i got the more i was able to look past just the beauty of a sports car.

varsas

4,076 posts

232 months

Friday 14th May 2010
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It depends.

I don't think I'd buy an ugly car, for example a BMW X6 could drive like an elise and I still wouldn't like it. Having said that there aren't many cars I think are offensively ugly. My mind can be changed, I hated how the last shape 'big bum' meganes looked, and it was even worse after I drove one (it was truly horrible) but then an R.26 blatted past me on a track day and suddenly it didn't look so bad at all...and actually out on a track day looks don't matter at all...faster = better.

Jasandjules

72,633 posts

259 months

Friday 14th May 2010
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Well, I don't know if I count as a petrolhead, but I sure do care what the car looks like. If it's to be a sports car, then I want it to look like a sports car.

It doesn't matter if a car can rocket from 0-60 in 4 seconds, if it looks like a shed.......

heebeegeetee

30,195 posts

278 months

Friday 14th May 2010
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rockandrollmark said:
Kinda following on from the 997 GT2RS oooooh it's dull, it just looks like a Porsche thread.
Given the fascinating history of Porsche, and the utter petrolheadism that has percolated through the company along the decades, even if it's been diluted in recent years - can you say that you don't like Porsches and still claim to be a petrolhead - doesn't a dislike of Porsches make you a hairdresser (unless you're a biker)? smile