Cycling Without A Helmet Around a City...
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Whilst I always wear a helmet myself, I don't necessarily think it would offer much protection if I was run over, for example. Directly hitting my head on the pavement, yes. But to be honest if I come off my bike it will likely be at speed and I will slide on my side, where a helmet will not really do much.
itsnotarace said:
Whilst I always wear a helmet myself, I don't necessarily think it would offer much protection if I was run over, for example. Directly hitting my head on the pavement, yes. But to be honest if I come off my bike it will likely be at speed and I will slide on my side, where a helmet will not really do much.
What s dumbass thing to say. How can you predict how you are going to fall or fall into/onto what?itsnotarace said:
Whilst I always wear a helmet myself, I don't necessarily think it would offer much protection if I was run over, for example. Directly hitting my head on the pavement, yes. But to be honest if I come off my bike it will likely be at speed and I will slide on my side, where a helmet will not really do much.
Of course its not a guarantee, but just have a look at the corner of your average city kerbstone...there's a reason they're not called kerbsponges.DeputyDawg said:
What s dumbass thing to say. How can you predict how you are going to fall or fall into/onto what?
Which is why I will wear my helmet regardless, dumbass. But considering I ride 99% on the road in rural areas, I think my assessment of a fall that I will likely make is pretty accurate - it would probably be on a wet road cornering at speed.itsnotarace said:
DeputyDawg said:
What s dumbass thing to say. How can you predict how you are going to fall or fall into/onto what?
Which is why I will wear my helmet regardless, dumbass. But considering I ride 99% on the road in rural areas, I think my assessment of a fall that I will likely make is pretty accurate - it would probably be on a wet road cornering at speed.Marty Funkhouser said:
okgo said:
Never wear a helmet. I'll deal with the injury when it comes my way. Hasn't in 12 years though.
Thats great, but isnt it sort of like a 20 a day smoker saying they've not had cancer in 12 years of 20-a-day?Smoking effects the human cell system, and turns some cancerous, you can't stop it happening, you can only treat it when it does happen.
I've been riding freeride for about 8 years and more recently road for fitness and work in outer London. I've jumped down stair sets on a 8" travel bike, I've jumped huge gaps, etc etc, and like I said more recently you can catch my dodging cars and overtaking lentalists in Richmond Park, not had an issue. But then that's because I'm in control of the bike unlike my genetics
Like I said if someone drives into me then I'll see what happens. It's my choice, the same way some people riding an R1 will wear a t shirt and trainers, others will go full leather with back protector.
okgo said:
Marty Funkhouser said:
okgo said:
Never wear a helmet. I'll deal with the injury when it comes my way. Hasn't in 12 years though.
Thats great, but isnt it sort of like a 20 a day smoker saying they've not had cancer in 12 years of 20-a-day?Smoking effects the human cell system, and turns some cancerous, you can't stop it happening, you can only treat it when it does happen.
I've been riding freeride for about 8 years and more recently road for fitness and work in outer London. I've jumped down stair sets on a 8" travel bike, I've jumped huge gaps, etc etc, and like I said more recently you can catch my dodging cars and overtaking lentalists in Richmond Park, not had an issue. But then that's because I'm in control of the bike unlike my genetics
Like I said if someone drives into me then I'll see what happens. It's my choice, the same way some people riding an R1 will wear a t shirt and trainers, others will go full leather with back protector.
Still think it should be illegal mind.
Marty Funkhouser said:
Fair enough. I guess I just find it hard to understand why someone would accept the associated risks of riding around a city sans helmet.
Still think it should be illegal mind.
because some of us are adults and still want to be treated as such. I am sick of other people telling me how i should, behave, ride, spend my money, live my life, mix gravy etc.Still think it should be illegal mind.
how would you like it if (assuming you like a drink) ban all booze as it causes people to fall over and hurt themselves. i suspect you and many others like me would be up in arms
its choice, think its daft all you like, but don't preach to those that don't.
incidentally i think anyone who ventures off road on a bike without a helmet is a complete doughnut, hence my shape as i don't wear one. i is an adult i is allowed to be a hypocrite
Marty Funkhouser said:
okgo said:
Because I doubt it will make much of a difference if the impact is serious?
And I would think you must think bike leathers should be made a legal requirement too right?
Nope, leathers dont (generally) save lives in the way helmets doAnd I would think you must think bike leathers should be made a legal requirement too right?
Edited by okgo on Thursday 13th May 11:06
itsnotarace said:
DeputyDawg said:
What s dumbass thing to say. How can you predict how you are going to fall or fall into/onto what?
Which is why I will wear my helmet regardless, dumbass. But considering I ride 99% on the road in rural areas, I think my assessment of a fall that I will likely make is pretty accurate - it would probably be on a wet road cornering at speed.Marty Funkhouser said:
sjg said:
The citizens of Paris, Amsterdam and Copenhagen would probably disagree.
I'd love to know the fatal accident rates for cyclists in those cities vs cities where most cyclists wear helmets.Why it isnt illegal is beyond me.
Amsterdam hovers around 6 deaths a year - and this is a city where scooter riders (also un-helmeted) are allowed to use cycle lanes too. The population is lower than London but cycling rates are much, much higher. I think Copenhagen was 5 deaths last year. Just like London, about 60% of cyclist fatalities are people getting squashed under turning lorries, for which no helmet will save you.
Do you wear a helmet when walking in case you trip and fall? Several people a year die in such circumstances.
okgo said:
Marty Funkhouser said:
okgo said:
Because I doubt it will make much of a difference if the impact is serious?
And I would think you must think bike leathers should be made a legal requirement too right?
Nope, leathers dont (generally) save lives in the way helmets doAnd I would think you must think bike leathers should be made a legal requirement too right?
Edited by okgo on Thursday 13th May 11:06
HTH.
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