HATOs to get powers to trap speeders?
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My line of work is to do with the Highways and I have heard a rumour that as from October 2010 HATOs will be allowed to use speed guns to trap motorists going over the limit.
In effect turning parked HATO vans into more scamera vans.
Anybody find anything about this on the internet?
I have had a quick search but can not verify this rumour.
In effect turning parked HATO vans into more scamera vans.
Anybody find anything about this on the internet?
I have had a quick search but can not verify this rumour.
Roo said:
Interesting article in the Daily Wail this morning saying that the new government was no longer going to fund fixed cameras so if HATO's are going to be able to do this who is paying for it?
So if we have a nationwide program to kill all of them, we might cause their extinction!AJI said:
My line of work is to do with the Highways and I have heard a rumour that as from October 2010 HATOs will be allowed to use speed guns to trap motorists going over the limit.
In effect turning parked HATO vans into more scamera vans.
Anybody find anything about this on the internet?
I have had a quick search but can not verify this rumour.
I cannot see this happening.In effect turning parked HATO vans into more scamera vans.
Anybody find anything about this on the internet?
I have had a quick search but can not verify this rumour.
The legal ramificaitons would be endless.
I am wondering what legal ramifications it would involve.
At the moment a 'safety camera partnership' can catch motorists. These camera vans are not police force.
So on a similar vain, HATOs could in theory be given a similar role.
As long as they are using similar equipment as a police man / scameravan, then I am guessing they could do a similar 'job'.
Although the use of speed guns is looking more and more dodgey and I hope it gets properly challenged in court with a judge that can understand the flaws of such devices.
But when this happens, would this give the go ahead for specs on every road? (guessing thats another thread)
(http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&t=833370&hw=+%2Bspecs+%2Bon+%2Bevery+%2Broad&nmt=How%20long%20before%20SPECS%20on%20EVERY%20road?)
At the moment a 'safety camera partnership' can catch motorists. These camera vans are not police force.
So on a similar vain, HATOs could in theory be given a similar role.
As long as they are using similar equipment as a police man / scameravan, then I am guessing they could do a similar 'job'.
Although the use of speed guns is looking more and more dodgey and I hope it gets properly challenged in court with a judge that can understand the flaws of such devices.
But when this happens, would this give the go ahead for specs on every road? (guessing thats another thread)
(http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&t=833370&hw=+%2Bspecs+%2Bon+%2Bevery+%2Broad&nmt=How%20long%20before%20SPECS%20on%20EVERY%20road?)
In a couple of years time all new cars will have GPS as standard (EU requirement for eCall) linked into the mobile phone system.
It's a very short step to comparing position to speed limit vs actual speed, and then a monthly debit will be taken from the RK's bank account for all the excess speed incidents.
It's a very short step to comparing position to speed limit vs actual speed, and then a monthly debit will be taken from the RK's bank account for all the excess speed incidents.
Deva Link said:
In a couple of years time all new cars will have GPS as standard (EU requirement for eCall) linked into the mobile phone system.
It's a very short step to comparing position to speed limit vs actual speed, and then a monthly debit will be taken from the RK's bank account for all the excess speed incidents.
Funky little toyIt's a very short step to comparing position to speed limit vs actual speed, and then a monthly debit will be taken from the RK's bank account for all the excess speed incidents.
Can't see it ever being a problem.
Wing Commander said:
Deva Link said:
In a couple of years time all new cars will have GPS as standard (EU requirement for eCall) linked into the mobile phone system.
It's a very short step to comparing position to speed limit vs actual speed, and then a monthly debit will be taken from the RK's bank account for all the excess speed incidents.
Funky little toyIt's a very short step to comparing position to speed limit vs actual speed, and then a monthly debit will be taken from the RK's bank account for all the excess speed incidents.
Can't see it ever being a problem.
EDLT said:
Wing Commander said:
Deva Link said:
In a couple of years time all new cars will have GPS as standard (EU requirement for eCall) linked into the mobile phone system.
It's a very short step to comparing position to speed limit vs actual speed, and then a monthly debit will be taken from the RK's bank account for all the excess speed incidents.
Funky little toyIt's a very short step to comparing position to speed limit vs actual speed, and then a monthly debit will be taken from the RK's bank account for all the excess speed incidents.
Can't see it ever being a problem.
Just don't get caught
EDLT said:
Wing Commander said:
Deva Link said:
In a couple of years time all new cars will have GPS as standard (EU requirement for eCall) linked into the mobile phone system.
It's a very short step to comparing position to speed limit vs actual speed, and then a monthly debit will be taken from the RK's bank account for all the excess speed incidents.
Funky little toyIt's a very short step to comparing position to speed limit vs actual speed, and then a monthly debit will be taken from the RK's bank account for all the excess speed incidents.
Can't see it ever being a problem.
Plus try to use cheap iPod FM Transmitter and sat nav at the same time - works a treat as a GPS jammer!
AJI said:
My line of work is to do with the Highways and I have heard a rumour that as from October 2010 HATOs will be allowed to use speed guns to trap motorists going over the limit.
In effect turning parked HATO vans into more scamera vans.
Anybody find anything about this on the internet?
I have had a quick search but can not verify this rumour.
I think this has been in a ph frontpage news article in the recentish past....good few months back now.In effect turning parked HATO vans into more scamera vans.
Anybody find anything about this on the internet?
I have had a quick search but can not verify this rumour.
rottie102 said:
EDLT said:
Wing Commander said:
Deva Link said:
In a couple of years time all new cars will have GPS as standard (EU requirement for eCall) linked into the mobile phone system.
It's a very short step to comparing position to speed limit vs actual speed, and then a monthly debit will be taken from the RK's bank account for all the excess speed incidents.
Funky little toyIt's a very short step to comparing position to speed limit vs actual speed, and then a monthly debit will be taken from the RK's bank account for all the excess speed incidents.
Can't see it ever being a problem.
Plus try to use cheap iPod FM Transmitter and sat nav at the same time - works a treat as a GPS jammer!
http://www.ofcom.org.uk/radiocomms/ifi/enforcement...
" Deliberate Interference
The use of any apparatus, whether or not wireless telegraphy apparatus, for the purpose of interfering with any wireless telegraphy, is an offence under the Wireless Telegraphy Act 2006. It is an indictable offence that on conviction in Crown Court carries a maximum penalty of two years imprisonment and/or an unlimited fine. The courts can also order forfeit of any apparatus used in the commission of the offence. "
I've not heard anything about this, and what's more the vast majority of HATO's don't want enforcement powers, enforcement is for the police and VOSA, HATO's do Traffic Management and try to keep the motorways running safely.
VOSA do have enforcement powers in relation to stopping vehicles, checking vehicle safety and conformance with law, also drivers hours etc. They normally drive "people carrier" type vehicles, but have the same black/yellow battenburge similar to HATO's, but HATO's mainly driver 4x4's although here are a couple of people carrier veh's mainly used by management from time to time.
VOSA have blue lights, HATO doesn't.
VOSA are out to enforce vehicle law and such.
Police are out to enforce driving law etc,
HATO's are out to keep you going as best possible.
VOSA do have enforcement powers in relation to stopping vehicles, checking vehicle safety and conformance with law, also drivers hours etc. They normally drive "people carrier" type vehicles, but have the same black/yellow battenburge similar to HATO's, but HATO's mainly driver 4x4's although here are a couple of people carrier veh's mainly used by management from time to time.
VOSA have blue lights, HATO doesn't.
VOSA are out to enforce vehicle law and such.
Police are out to enforce driving law etc,
HATO's are out to keep you going as best possible.
Boosted LS1 said:
Do VOSA have anpr on some vehicles then?
every VOSA Galaxy i've seen has an ANPR camera on the roof , they tend to lurk in pairs on a stretch of motorway near me between a large industrial / warehousing area with a rail terminal and the local LGV testing station + weighbridge as it's a 'target rich environment'Gassing Station | General Gassing [Archive] | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff