What pick up, Nissan Navara, L200 thoughts please

[davetull]

Hello

Looking to get a pick up style truck, Mitz L200, Nissan Navara style etc

Looks like the Nissan have a pretty awful reliabilty record?

Looking for something around 3000 to 4000 pound

Any other makes etc worth thinking about?

Many thanks

Dave

[Stitch]

The Nissan has very short service intervals and I suspect reliability issues come from not keeping to those schedules.

Everyone seems to overlook the Ford Ranger but it is a fair tool.

[davetull]

Thanks Stich

Should of added, I also want to toe a caravan, and just reading some of the older posts seems this style are not great to say the least?

thanks lots

[base]

my personal money would be on a L200 or a Ford Ranger for the price range you have, avoid nissans 2002- 2006 (they were the years where reliabilty was a real issue even the new one have suspect clutchs i believe)

L200 in your price range look better IMO than the pre 2007 ranger, that would be in your price bracket but they are good work horses.

they both tow about the same weight and drive about the same. for me it would be which one was the right one to buy ie condition mileage etc.

[DBaldwin]

we had an l200 untill my brother wrote it off. tbh it was terrible, turning circle of an oil tanker and we all hated it. we've now got a 2007 ford ranger and its fantastic in comparison. would definately reccomend it!

[jbi]

don't forget the yank pickup's (arguably the best vehicles to come out of America)

the easiest to acquire in this country would probably be either the dodge ram or ford F-150.

You can get the dodge with a diesel though and it makes an excellent tow car.

RAM 1500 has a tow rating of 10,450lbs and a payload rating of 1,900lbs
RAM 2500 has a tow rating of 13,450lbs and a payload rating of 3,160lbs
RAM 3500 has a tow rating of 17,600lbs and a payload rating of 5,130lbs

whichever suits your needs best

[zimmerman]

At work we ran 6 navaras c.2006 models up to about 100k each without any reliability problems. One of our guys towed a caravan and said it felt like it wasn't even there! They were all autos and apart from having to park them, I was quite fond of them. Fuel economy was pretty poor mind.

In comparison the rangers we have are nasty agricultural things

Edited by zimmerman on Sunday 16th May 20:16

[RobbieL]

The older shape L200's are pretty horrific on fuel and sluggish. If you can live with the poor economy then they're not too bad but make sure you get one with a higher spec like the "Animal" model as the boggo ones are a bit sparse inside. I believe the newer ones are much better though if your budget can stretch.

[dan1758]

I had an 02 plate Ford Ranger for three years and it is a very good truck apart from the following;

1) I've worked on ships with a better turning circle, everything is a 10 point turn.
2) The windscreen washer bottle is the size of an atom and requires constent refilling.
3) Don't get one without ABS as mine was on standard tyres without ABS and was prone to locking up at any given moment.(post 03 I think come with ABS as standard)

Having said all of the above I would have another if I needed this type of vehicle again.

HTH

[porka944s]

L200s are cack had one as a works vehicle, worse car ever, everyone drove the 6 year old ford ranger instead, and it had been through the wars like no car i've ever seen and everyone still liked it.

[Scuffers]

Stitch said:

The Nissan has very short service intervals and I suspect reliability issues come from not keeping to those schedules.

Everyone seems to overlook the Ford Ranger but it is a fair tool.

sorry?

Navara is 18,000 service intervals.

on my second one, never had any issues with either, in 5+ years

have tried L200/Issusu/Ranger etc, and they are all very agricultural in comparison IMHO

Lease rates on them are dam good too...

[eltax91]

What is the reason for looking at a Pickup apart from the towing OP? These trucks didn't get "fashionable" until the earlier 00's, so they have not moved on technically for many years, hence the cart suspension etc.

If you don't need the open truck back, then you could get quite a lot of Disco in your budget - they are great tow cars.

[vit4]

dan1758 said:

2) The windscreen washer bottle is the size of an atom

What are Vauxhall Bravas like?

[rb51]

Toyota hilux by far the best pick up, navaras and L200 Mitsubishi are only dirt in comparrison prices for the hilux are a bit high but u get what u pay for realy

[base]

i agree the hilux is probably a better truck they hold there money better but i know the newer ones have a low towing capacity in comparision to rangers etc hilux about 2.2 where as the others are 2.7 to 3.0 i think, this is about there only failing

[Scuffers]

Ford Ranger

Engine: 2499 cc 12 valve four cylinder turbo diesel
Power: 141 bhp at 3500 rpm
Torque: 242 lb/ft at 1800 rpm

Toyota Hilux

Displacement (cc / in(cub)) 2982 / 181.9
Max output (PS/kW) 167 / 126 @ 3600
Max torque (Nm / lbft) 343 / 252.79
Towing capacity (braked) (kg / lb) 2250 / 4961.25

Nissan Navara

Maximum engine power kW(hp)/rpm 128(174)/4000
Maximum engine power bhp 171.6
Maximum engine torque Nm(kgm)/rpm 403(41.1)/2000
Max. towing capacity weight braked @ 12% kg 2305kg

[Lancs Jag Boy]

I have to agree with much of what has alreayd been written about the L200. They are st. We had one at work from new between 2004-2007 and it was terrible. It kept throwing belts and being towed to the dealer that never, ever, ever had any parts.

[joebongo]

Knock yourself out but beware that you will look like a gypsy in one. They are the weapon of choice for the travelling types.

[General Price]

Scuffers said:

Stitch said:

The Nissan has very short service intervals and I suspect reliability issues come from not keeping to those schedules.

Everyone seems to overlook the Ford Ranger but it is a fair tool.

sorry?

Navara is 18,000 service intervals.

on my second one, never had any issues with either, in 5+ years

have tried L200/Issusu/Ranger etc, and they are all very agricultural in comparison IMHO

Lease rates on them are dam good too...

The money the ops talking won't get him a D40 and the D22's were 6 or 8000 intervals until they got to 50 or 60,000.Then they just blew up.

[Scuffers]

General Price said:

Scuffers said:

Stitch said:

The Nissan has very short service intervals and I suspect reliability issues come from not keeping to those schedules.

Everyone seems to overlook the Ford Ranger but it is a fair tool.

sorry?

Navara is 18,000 service intervals.

on my second one, never had any issues with either, in 5+ years

have tried L200/Issusu/Ranger etc, and they are all very agricultural in comparison IMHO

Lease rates on them are dam good too...

The money the ops talking won't get him a D40 and the D22's were 6 or 8000 intervals until they got to 50 or 60,000.Then they just blew up.

Good point, D22's were crap, no argument.

D40 wise, they are about at sensible money now, there's this one in classifieds for £5,999, bit of haggling would make it a bargain.

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/1700196.htm