How hard can you push them?
How hard can you push them?
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Jonny671

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29,778 posts

212 months

Monday 17th May 2010
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On my previous car, I never found the limiter.. And never really drove it hard as it was french and I thought even looking near 6k would make bits fall off, comedy car style.

But the '5 is different, and I've heard you have to drive them quite hard to get them working well.. Is that right?

I drive like a granny most of the time, so when I do want to have a hoon I think compared to other 'hooners' I must be quite slow.

Just wondering really how their prefered to be driven smile

rfn

4,601 posts

230 months

Monday 17th May 2010
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Well I spent much of the time driving the Mk2.5 bouncing off or near the rev limiter and it never showed any ill signs. Check the oil once a week (depending on how many miles you do obviously) and service regularly and it should be fine!

Strangely enough I've been doing similar in the Mk3 for the past 8 months, once fully warmed up I use the full length of the rev range where appropriate - it loves it!

Dan_1981

17,966 posts

222 months

Monday 17th May 2010
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They like to be driven hard.

I think I read omewhere that the engine puts out max performace at 6500 rpm? - not sure if this is true or not but mine does seem to like it up there.

I don't regualrly aim to bounce of the limiter, and the first few time I did I thought something had broken, but I do try to get through plenty of revs!


Gizmo!

18,150 posts

232 months

Monday 17th May 2010
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I've only actually hit the limiter once in mine - overtaking something in 2nd smile but the rev range is there to be used. It's a 16v DOHC non-interference engine - chances of you breaking it are tiny.

snotrag

15,504 posts

234 months

Monday 17th May 2010
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Make sure your oil and coolant systems are in good nick. Make sure car is nicely and steadily warmed up.

Boot it.

I think part of the reason for whole 'slow' image is that so many people have test driven them, put their foot down in 4th at 30mph and thought - wow, nothings happening. My Golf TDI is way faster when I do that.

However - hit 2nd and try again - bam - your off. Dont change up till 7000rpm. Again through 3rd. By the time you get to the point at which you have to go for Fourth you'll be very illegal.

As said - they are tough old boots and they like to be revved. My car runs noticeably better when its been given some stick, than it does if I dawdle around in it for a few days.

MX-5 Lazza

7,954 posts

242 months

Monday 17th May 2010
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My car is supercharged so has about 230bhp at 7krpm. I regularly take it there especially on track where it pretty much lives between 5k & 7k (or the limiter if I don't change gear quick enough) for a whole day of track thrashing. The engine can take all that punishment and much more.
I used to check the oil weekly, then monthly - now I check it when I can be bothered. Even with all that power and regular thrashings it never uses any oil.

These are good engines - not the most powerful, characterful, great sounding, smoothest, easiest to tune etc. but they are over-engineered & bulletproof and will take a hell of a lot of punishment in return for very little TLC.

MX-5 Lazza

7,954 posts

242 months

Monday 17th May 2010
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Just noticed you are a "Mazda Service advisor" - surely you already know all this? scratchchin

MixxyMatosis

388 posts

192 months

Monday 17th May 2010
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This thread comforts me greatly as I have a penchant for driving hard I used to own an 06 plate punto and I sold it on its third gearbox. The 5's just seem to take the punishment like a dominatrix takes a good spanking.

LukeBird

17,170 posts

232 months

Monday 17th May 2010
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I thrash mine quite a lot! Regularly run it to the rev-limiter and can't think of many wink days where I haven't taken it to 6k or beyond. smile

Jonny671

Original Poster:

29,778 posts

212 months

Monday 17th May 2010
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MX-5 Lazza said:
Just noticed you are a "Mazda Service advisor" - surely you already know all this? scratchchin
No.. On the Citroen I thought it would go wrong at the thought of some beans.. So never drove hard.

Don't drive cars here hard, and in customers cars about 10mph maximum as its just on site, no reason to go elsewhere.

I know their quite strong, since I've been here in 2 years I've only had a few MX5s go wrong, but just wanted to see how everyone else drives them smile

Legend83

10,447 posts

245 months

Monday 17th May 2010
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Just one rule - warm her up.

Pretty much blow the cobwebs out of mine every day. It is hard not to really, particularly when, similar to Lazza, you have a supercharger bolted on....

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identti

2,386 posts

248 months

Monday 17th May 2010
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Mine hits peak power at 7500rpm and revs to 8600! NA power smokin

treadstone

41 posts

192 months

Monday 17th May 2010
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My mk2.5 willingly spends most of its time between 5000rpm and 7000rpm unless I'm on a motorway cruise or otherwise obstructed by other road users (the inconsiderate swines smile).


hornetrider

63,161 posts

228 months

Monday 17th May 2010
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Me in another thread said:
I did a track experience day (6th Gear) and the LP640 guy was chatting about MX5s as he loved them. Said they had a Mk1 which they had raced for in Max5 for 5 years since coming off the boat, and it made the most HP on the dyno compared to loads of other 5s of the same spec! I think 5s like a thrash!
So yes, they like a good workout wink

GravelBen

16,342 posts

253 months

Monday 17th May 2010
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identti said:
Mine hits peak power at 7500rpm and revs to 8600! NA power smokin
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Assume its got more than a few uprated bits then? I've heard stories from people in the know that valves start to float above 7500 and the oil pump won't last long above 8k.


Howard-

4,964 posts

225 months

Monday 17th May 2010
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Mine makes peak power at 6995RPM, limiter is at around 7.2k IIRC smile

Jag-D

19,633 posts

242 months

Monday 17th May 2010
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Once warmed, I would say fairly bloody hard!

I love getting to that point where you can drop to second and land in the sweet spot and bury the throttle...the way the arse sits down and it pulls is quality!

Jonny671

Original Poster:

29,778 posts

212 months

Monday 17th May 2010
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Right.

'5 is having a good service tomorrow at work as we're quiet.. Then I know its healthy, will give it abit of a run tomorrow biggrin

LukeBird

17,170 posts

232 months

Monday 17th May 2010
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identti said:
Mine hits peak power at 7500rpm and revs to 8600! NA power smokin
Christ, what has been done to that?!

pbirkett

20,130 posts

295 months

Tuesday 18th May 2010
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Mine gets thrashed mercilessly. Doesn't seem to bother it. Unlike some on here though mine does seem to need regular oil top ups (perhaps 0.5 - 1 ltr per 1000 mls). Other than that it's not bothered about it at all.

Eta: before anyone says it, it's not the cas o-ring as that's been replaced.

Edited by pbirkett on Tuesday 18th May 09:06