has everyone fallen out of love with the T1R?

[dylan0451]

is it just old hat. are there better tyres out there for the price?

a couple of years back everyone seemed to be banging on about them as a great all season and semi track tyre. at camskill's offer of £30 a corner for 195/50 r15 it seems i can't go wrong. I've always wanted to try some from the gleaming reviews they've had of old but wonder if these days they're past their best?

reminds me of when people used to say 'pirelli are the best tyres out there. get some P6000's. you won't be dissapointed'

[Defcon5]

I use them, and I noticed at a recent meet the majority of cars had them on too

[Silver940]

I bought a set of 4, can't wait for them to wear out.

[briSk]

i don;t think people have fallen out of love with them. i just think they're 'specialist trackday' (in reality) and people have gone harder core to 888s and things like that.

[HellDiver]

They made my Lancer undriveable. Hideous tyres.

[iggletiggle]

i ran T1R's on all my saxos (VTRs and VTS) and they were great..

I would still look at some for a car that needed them now, in fact my brother is getting a set on his 172 Exclusive next week

[hornetrider]

HellDiver said:

They made my Lancer undriveable. Hideous tyres.

Heavy car. Not really meant for soft sidewalls.

[Kozy]

I had a set on my Civic and I wasn't impressed, they were squishy and gave no feedback, and wet/dry grip was not up to Eagle F1 standards.

However, they are cheap, and I've just ordered a pair for the rear wheels at £29 each whilst going back to F1s on the front. Given the state of my local roads after some dismal resurfacing works leaving a seriously abrasive surface, I steered away from tying some of the more expensive Kumho KU36s for fear that they would simply wear away too quickly.

On the road I can't really justify needing anything better. There's no denying they are not brilliant, but for the price, you really cannot argue.

[Matt_N]

I think the consensus is that they are good for small light hatches, but not so good for bigger heavier cars due to the soft side walls.

My track car uses 15" tyres but I run R888s as I get them cheap, but if I had another small car that needed 15"s Id probably be using T1's.

[Colin 1985]

Thought they worked great on the Prelude. Although I have heard that their side wall is not as stiff as other, more expensive 'high performance' tyres and therefore they are better suited to lighter cars (ie. less than 1200-1300kg).

I eventually replaced them with the 'toyo proxes 4', but this tyre certainly had less grip than the T1R.

[dylan0451]

they're for my 1990 mx5. the disadvantage in buying a car that's been track prepped is that you never had an idea what the car was like as stock - spring rates, OE wheel/tyre size

i'm came with yoko parada 2's which, when i first had the car gave tremendous grip. getting down to the legal limit, oddly they seem to be going off the boil - with metallic pads i seem to be loosing ability to modulate so well and locking up all the time

i was considering some 'wanli's' or 'linglong's' to reduce the grip further and get more of a feel for the chassis, but get the impression they may well be downright dangerous

[900T-R]

Note that as of this month the successor to the T1R, the T1 Sport is being launched.

Like its predecessor T1S, the T1R has had good innings but IIRC it's a 6 year old design which is not far short of an eternity in the world of UHP tyre designs.

[t84]

I've got these on my Focus, very happy with them, don't last very long but they're so cheap who needs to buy ditchfinders?

[hornetrider]

dylan0451 said:

they're for my 1990 mx5...

i was considering some 'wanli's' or 'linglong's' to reduce the grip further and get more of a feel for the chassis, but get the impression they may well be downright dangerous

Toyo is the ideal tyre for the 5. You don't need linglongs to get the back end out either.

[briSk]

whatever you do don't get the ling longs..!

from my thread this week i have decided to experiment with falken ze912s on my mcs. we'll see. not same d=sort of thing but might be good for what you're trying to achieve..?

[GravelBen]

I've tried T1R, Eagle F1 GSD3 and Bridgestone RE001 on the GTB (280bhp/1500kg AWD, 215/45-17) and prefer the RE001 by a country mile - the T1R and F1 both grip well enough (wet or dry) but the tyre construction just isn't up to the same standard. Weak, soft sidewalls mean excessive shoulder wear and make them very vulnerable to punctures and sidewall cuts - most of them were 'retired' that way before the tread wore out. The RE001 just feel a step above with more even wear and similar grip overall - slightly less when cold, noticeably better once you get a bit of heat into them.

T1R may be fine on a lighter car and are certainly popular on MX5s but I won't be putting them or GSD3 on a Subaru again.

[900T-R]

Swings and roundabouts - note that Bridgestones are usually 1-1.5 kg heavier than competing tyres in the same size and category.

[dylan0451]

hornetrider said:

dylan0451 said:

they're for my 1990 mx5...

i was considering some 'wanli's' or 'linglong's' to reduce the grip further and get more of a feel for the chassis, but get the impression they may well be downright dangerous

Toyo is the ideal tyre for the 5. You don't need linglongs to get the back end out either.

i'm guessing you have a snail stuck to your mainfold?!

briSk said:

whatever you do don't get the ling longs..!

from my thread this week i have decided to experiment with falken ze912s on my mcs. we'll see. not same d=sort of thing but might be good for what you're trying to achieve..?

maybe, i have looked at them and heard good things, they seem to impress a friend who wears them on the rear of a tweaked mr2 turbo...

maybe i should get the p6000 rep specials on it. atleast they'd last 3 years

[Dale19]

Ive got them on my starlet (880kg) and think they are good in both wet and dry tbh.

[JB!]

i ran them on the front of my ibiza cupra (1120kgs) great tyre.