"Intentionally losing control of a vehicle"
"Intentionally losing control of a vehicle"
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bromers2

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1,867 posts

280 months

Sunday 23rd May 2010
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... and I thought the UK was draconian.

Understand they've got to make an example but this is a bit too far.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia_pacific/1014...

al1991

4,552 posts

210 months

Sunday 23rd May 2010
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Does seem a bit ridiculous.

Especially considering he's probably the safest and most in control person that could be performing said burnout.

Funk

27,736 posts

239 months

Sunday 23rd May 2010
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"I was driving in an over-exuberant manner and, as a result, was stopped by the police.

"What I did was silly, and I want to apologise for it."

Wimp.

Can you imagine F1 drivers of old saying any such thing? The Aussies sound like they have even more of a nanny-state over there than we do over here. The coppers that pulled him should hang their heads in shame.

slow-dude

16 posts

238 months

Sunday 23rd May 2010
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LOL. I don't think that Lewis Hamilton actually ''lost'' control of the vehicle.

gareth.e

2,071 posts

219 months

Sunday 23rd May 2010
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lol biggrin

I see why they called him out, but tbh you'd think they'd make an exception

marcosgt

11,502 posts

206 months

Sunday 23rd May 2010
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slow-dude said:
LOL. I don't think that Lewis Hamilton actually ''lost'' control of the vehicle.
Yes, sounds like a simple minded plod (and local politicians if I remember the case correctly) being over officious and making a total arse of themselves.

Boycott Australia for holidays and send an email to the high commission explaining why you're doing so and I expect we'd find the same officials colleting litter off the track for next year's event.

M.

Rich_W

12,548 posts

242 months

Sunday 23rd May 2010
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As I said on another forum

"Australian Police arrest Black man Shocker!"

Poor choice by them. He'll be convicted in his absence, and presumably be unable to drive on Aus roads in the future. Of more pressing concern is whether they will then let a convicted individual into the country early next year. Having seen the way their customs officials view everyone not 100% Aussie, I'd be a touch concerned if I was Martin Whitmarsh!

Edited by Rich_W on Sunday 23 May 17:26

Funk

27,736 posts

239 months

Sunday 23rd May 2010
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Rich_W said:
As I said on another forum

"Australian Police arrest Black man Shocker!"

Poor choice by them. He'll be convicted in his absence, and presumably be unable to drive on Aus roads in the future. Of more pressing concern is whether they will then let a convicted individual into the country early next year. Having seen the way their customs officials view everyone not 100% Aussie, I'd be a touch concerned if I was Martin Whitmarsh!

Edited by Rich_W on Sunday 23 May 17:26
I think it was Henry Blofeld who, upon being asked at Australian immigration whether he had any criminal convictions, said:

"My dear boy, I didn't realise it was still compulsory."

Corker! hehe

anonymous-user

84 months

Sunday 23rd May 2010
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Rich_W said:
As I said on another forum

"Australian Police arrest Black man Shocker!"
Are the Australians known for their racism then (Serious question)?

Willy Nilly

12,511 posts

197 months

Sunday 23rd May 2010
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Rich_W said:
As I said on another forum

"Australian Police arrest Black man Shocker!"

Poor choice by them. He'll be convicted in his absence, and presumably be unable to drive on Aus roads in the future. Of more pressing concern is whether they will then let a convicted individual into the country early next year. Having seen the way their customs officials view everyone not 100% Aussie, I'd be a touch concerned if I was Martin Whitmarsh!

Edited by Rich_W on Sunday 23 May 17:26
The Aussies police are just trying to help Australian sport by not letting Foreign competitors in to the country. They need all the help they can get at the minute, they're not that bad at F1, but as a country can't ride motorbikes. Or play Cricket. Their swimming is a bit lacking too.

redgriff500

28,982 posts

293 months

Sunday 23rd May 2010
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Simps said:
Rich_W said:
As I said on another forum

"Australian Police arrest Black man Shocker!"
Are the Australians known for their racism then (Serious question)?
They were....

but since they have killed most of the original inhabitants its not much of a problem.

Rich_W

12,548 posts

242 months

Sunday 23rd May 2010
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Last time you saw a black person on Neighbours? Or Home and Away?

Or even ANY non white actor/actress?

Twincam16

27,647 posts

288 months

Sunday 23rd May 2010
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Why is it that professional drivers, who know more about the physics of car control than anyone else on the road, are considered to be 'dangerous' by the clueless?

It must be an ignorance thing, like these people who don't trust scientists because they don't understand them or their mindselt, but who will fall for the whole 'pentapeptides' spiel when being sold snakeoil face cream, because it sounds like an authoritative little bit of knowledge being given to them for free (except that it's made-up bks and it's being given to them for the price of their snakeoil).

netherfield

3,196 posts

214 months

Sunday 23rd May 2010
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Rich_W said:
Last time you saw a black person on Neighbours? Or Home and Away?

Or even ANY non white actor/actress?
You mean someone actually watches those programmes.

heebeegeetee

30,191 posts

278 months

Sunday 23rd May 2010
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Twincam16 said:
Why is it that professional drivers, who know more about the physics of car control than anyone else on the road, are considered to be 'dangerous' by the clueless?

It must be an ignorance thing, like these people who don't trust scientists because they don't understand them or their mindselt, but who will fall for the whole 'pentapeptides' spiel when being sold snakeoil face cream, because it sounds like an authoritative little bit of knowledge being given to them for free (except that it's made-up bks and it's being given to them for the price of their snakeoil).
Er, as discussed before, I'm not sure that putting 'racing driver' on an insurance proposal form results in any sort of a discount. Indeed if i had to, i'd wager that their claims record would be worse.

The average racing driver crashes far more often than Mrs Miggins, you know. smile

Pork

9,455 posts

264 months

Sunday 23rd May 2010
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It was a dream come true for the Aussie police. Apparently, there's a big drive to clamp down on 'dickeheads' driving like that (to the point they use that very word in their advertising campaign), and to clip the wings of an F1 driver must have been a dream come true for them.

Was it perhaps a well engineered publicity stunt in support of their campaign?

fluffnik

20,156 posts

257 months

Sunday 23rd May 2010
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slow-dude said:
LOL. I don't think that Lewis Hamilton actually ''lost'' control of the vehicle.
yes

He should deploy the "wheels were spinning but I was in full control" defense.

Twincam16

27,647 posts

288 months

Sunday 23rd May 2010
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heebeegeetee said:
Twincam16 said:
Why is it that professional drivers, who know more about the physics of car control than anyone else on the road, are considered to be 'dangerous' by the clueless?

It must be an ignorance thing, like these people who don't trust scientists because they don't understand them or their mindselt, but who will fall for the whole 'pentapeptides' spiel when being sold snakeoil face cream, because it sounds like an authoritative little bit of knowledge being given to them for free (except that it's made-up bks and it's being given to them for the price of their snakeoil).
Er, as discussed before, I'm not sure that putting 'racing driver' on an insurance proposal form results in any sort of a discount. Indeed if i had to, i'd wager that their claims record would be worse.

The average racing driver crashes far more often than Mrs Miggins, you know. smile
But on the road? Sure, if they're pushing the limits of their car round a track or on a rally stage they're bound to have an 'off' sooner or later, but on the road surely they'd know how to control their car more accurately in an emergency than some clueless muppet bumbling along in a Micra looking through the steering wheel?

BliarOut

72,863 posts

269 months

Sunday 23rd May 2010
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fluffnik said:
slow-dude said:
LOL. I don't think that Lewis Hamilton actually ''lost'' control of the vehicle.
yes

He should deploy the "wheels were spinning but I was in full control" defense.
yes Hamilton could (and should) easily argue that he was in full control.

scenario8

7,986 posts

209 months

Sunday 23rd May 2010
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I was in Oz at the time and can assure you it was big news and very embarrassing for Mercedes, McLaren and Lewis. There is a perceived, and possibly real problem in Australia of young drivers hooning it. Indeed every day in the evening news, and in every morning news programme there were stories of x number of fatal accidents that/the previous day. And the numbers were a bit of a surprise to be honest. Maybe there is simply a heightened sense of road deaths being newsworthy, but I remember at the time doing a bit of simple maths and thinking "crikey, they do seem to kill themselves with aplomb over here." Funnily enough, the other national obsession is boat people arriving on their northern shores. I'd've suspected a free Holden for each new arrival would've solved the problem nicely.

In the end though, they are a nation state and they can make the laws as they please. He was a bit of a twerp, admitted such and should expect to be made an example of. Whether that will necessarily mean a stiffer penalty we shall see.
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