Family Wagon?
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Job38

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1,973 posts

266 months

Sunday 23rd May 2010
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In need of a family wagon for kids and doggie.

Auto is out, and diesel is a bit pointles as we don't do many miles.

So, ideally - SAAB 95 Aero (I'm a recent convert having picked up a Classic 93 Aero Coupe) but, they're pretty rare....

Or, an E34 530-540, but again, not in plentiful supply....

Expert advice and alternatives appreciated....

Powderpuff

355 posts

279 months

Sunday 23rd May 2010
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Worth looking at the Volvo V70R as well.

dave_s13

14,031 posts

299 months

Sunday 23rd May 2010
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Job38 said:
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Auto is out, and diesel is a bit pointles as we don't do many miles.
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Why? I've got a 52 plate Volvo V70 d5 auto and it's a great engine, for a derv. It's showing an indicated 43mpg too and it rarely sees the Mway.

I've previously had a Saab 95 and e39 528 and 540 tourings.

The Volvo is the best of that bunch by a long way. It doesn't handle as well as the beemer and can't keep up with the Aero in a straight line but in terms of overall practicality and day to day usability it wins hands down.

E39 540's are a great car but 18mpg hurts, I don't care how limited your mileage is I'll bet you a pound to a pinch you'll find filing up (75-80quid) and only getting 250-280 miles will start to grate sharpish.

What's your budget though? My car was £5500 and is in better nick than the 54 plate Saab 95 I had before that cost me nearly 9k (a few years ago) - Saabs depreciate like a beeatch!

Job38

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1,973 posts

266 months

Sunday 23rd May 2010
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Thanks, Dave, appreciate your comments...but, my 93 Aero gets 500 miles from a tank at 35mpg. I was hoping a 95 would be not too far off relative to it's increased weight/increased engine size etc,

I do like Volvo wagons but a friend recently got rid of an V70 4WD diesel auto and, IMHO was a gruff old engine with very average mpg.....

Equally, my 850 CSi with an M Power 5.6L V12 averaged 18mpg so a 4.0L V8 manual has got to improve on that, no........

dave_s13

14,031 posts

299 months

Sunday 23rd May 2010
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My Saab 95 Aero (54 reg, manual) did 23mpg average driven in the same way as my Volvo. They will crack 30mpg if driven with care though, and not stop/start.

I can't see how anyone can call the D5 unit gruff...it just isn't!

My 540 was an auto and 18mpg was it for me. I'd imagine a manual would get you a bit more yes.

Have you had a blast in a Saab 95? They are OK but feel nowhere near as well put together as an E39 or V70. They fly in a straight line though.....go through front tyres like.

Edited by dave_s13 on Sunday 23 May 20:13

Job38

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1,973 posts

266 months

Sunday 23rd May 2010
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Maybe the V70 I was in was in baddun.....

Consumption for 95 not sounding good, may have to rethink my plans....

Here we go again....

Deluded

4,968 posts

221 months

Sunday 23rd May 2010
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I had a similar what car a few months back.

Decided on a BMW 316i Coupe. It's a hatchback so can get the dogs in the back and also a 4/5 seater with a surprisingly good amount of leg room in the. Not perfect for getting the baby seat in and out as its a 3 door but we manage.

Probably not the first choice for a "family wagon" but I wanted something economical (1.6 max), decent insurance and would get a car seat and dogs in at the same time. All of the estates I looked at either had big engines or high insurance and none of the bland family hatches floated my boat.

GravelBen

16,526 posts

260 months

Sunday 23rd May 2010
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This thread is empty without someone suggesting a Legacy. smile

addey

1,334 posts

197 months

Sunday 23rd May 2010
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I'm also considering a 9-5 aero estate for my next car and have been doing a little bit of reading up over the last few days. It seems that 30mpg is achievable, which doesn't seem too bad for a 250bhp car!! I'm only just hitting 31mpg in my 1.8T Passat estate at the moment......

It seems that the Saab is better value than equivelant volvo/bmw etc. which is why it is currently top of my list

Job38

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1,973 posts

266 months

Sunday 23rd May 2010
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Legacy - mmmmm, that's an idea....

E39 528 manual may be a better choice than the SAAB 95...?


NiceCupOfTea

25,606 posts

281 months

Sunday 23rd May 2010
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9-5 Aeros aren't rare, there's loads around!

And how on earth are you getting 35mpg and 500 miles from a tank in a c900!? Is it an LPT?

I've had mine for 5 years and have averaged 26mpg in that time, with 300 miles from a tank if I baby it. Only time I got into low 30s mpg was on a leisurely cruise to the Lake District at 60 or so on the M6...

Job38

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266 months

Sunday 23rd May 2010
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95 Aero estates, with FSH and sensible miles are not in plentiful supply (unless I'm missing something obvious).

And, yes, my 2002 93 Aero Coupe does 34mpg and 500 miles per tank.....................

NiceCupOfTea

25,606 posts

281 months

Sunday 23rd May 2010
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Job38 said:
95 Aero estates, with FSH and sensible miles are not in plentiful supply (unless I'm missing something obvious).

And, yes, my 2002 93 Aero Coupe does 34mpg and 500 miles per tank.....................
Ah, so it's a 9-3, thought you meant a 1993 c900 Aero.

matt9k

119 posts

218 months

Monday 24th May 2010
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The earlier 230hp Aero estate seems to be a little more frugal than the 250hp version. On a long trip I used to get almost 35mpg (not bad for the automatic, manual might have squeezed a little more out of a tank), however round town it could drop as low as 12mpg! Having driven both back to back the 250hp (first facelift IIRC) does feel slightly better screwed together but post 2004 a lot of the standard fit stuff started becoming options.

Mr Gearchange

5,892 posts

236 months

Monday 24th May 2010
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GravelBen said:
This thread is empty without someone suggesting a Legacy. smile
Yes. You should buy a Legacy Spec B Estate.

MoonMonkey

2,341 posts

243 months

Monday 24th May 2010
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I've just (read last week) bought a 9-5 Aero (saloon though). Bloody marvellous and a bit of a convert. Quick, comfy, safe and oh so cheap. Fuel computer thingy reading 32 mpg average. Juries still out on the reliability until it's got a few more miles under it's belt in my ownership....

dave_s13

14,031 posts

299 months

Monday 24th May 2010
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Also bear in mind with Aero's that they really need high octane fuel or they will feel stunted.

The difference in mine was remarkable. It would go from rocket ship quick on 99RON to mother ship on 95RON (when my bloody wife filled it up). There was nothing wrong with it either.

james_tigerwoods

16,347 posts

227 months

Monday 24th May 2010
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Cough cough - Fiat Multipla smile

MoonMonkey

2,341 posts

243 months

Monday 24th May 2010
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dave_s13 said:
Also bear in mind with Aero's that they really need high octane fuel or they will feel stunted.

The difference in mine was remarkable. It would go from rocket ship quick on 99RON to mother ship on 95RON (when my bloody wife filled it up). There was nothing wrong with it either.
Hmm interesting. Will have to try that. Last fill up was 95 ron for the m/way slog.

rob.e

2,863 posts

308 months

Monday 24th May 2010
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What's your budget?

Since my family expanded I'm running an octavia vrs estate, 2.0T, 200ish bhp, loads of room, vw/audi type build quality and cheap as chips to buy, 35-ish mpg too.

Nicer to drive than a volvo IMO. Not driven a 95 but i was disappointed with all the 9-3's i've driven.

02p etc.