Quitest, comfortable, refined long distance mile muncher
Discussion
I have made trips between Berkshire and Vienna in a single day previously.
That is, over 900 miles. Usually getting the Eurotunnel at 07:20, arriving in Calais at around 09:00.
The next 12-15 hours to drive across France, Belgium, Netherlands, Germany and then finally into Austria (shortest, if not the most scenic route).
Plane would obviously make most sense, but boy, what a drive.
Now I want something different to make the journey in. I am looking to spend £5000 max on a car which would make this journey in extreme silence and comfort. If it can get close to 30-35 mpg that would be a bonus (I intend to average 70-80 mph average speed for the whole journey).
At those prices, a diesel would probably be unobtainable. What are my choices:
Lexus LS400 - circa 1998-2000
Mercedes S class - circa 1999-2001
Old shape 7 series circa 2001
Any recommendations/ advice?
I have never owned luxury vehicles before. So, how much more refined is say an S class over an E class or 7 series over a 5 series?
That is, over 900 miles. Usually getting the Eurotunnel at 07:20, arriving in Calais at around 09:00.
The next 12-15 hours to drive across France, Belgium, Netherlands, Germany and then finally into Austria (shortest, if not the most scenic route).
Plane would obviously make most sense, but boy, what a drive.
Now I want something different to make the journey in. I am looking to spend £5000 max on a car which would make this journey in extreme silence and comfort. If it can get close to 30-35 mpg that would be a bonus (I intend to average 70-80 mph average speed for the whole journey).
At those prices, a diesel would probably be unobtainable. What are my choices:
Lexus LS400 - circa 1998-2000
Mercedes S class - circa 1999-2001
Old shape 7 series circa 2001
Any recommendations/ advice?
I have never owned luxury vehicles before. So, how much more refined is say an S class over an E class or 7 series over a 5 series?
Six months ago I bought one of these for 2300 quid
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&am...
in exactly the same spec, engine and mileage as the one above,after looking at 100K miles XJ's,7 series,LS400's etc.
It's simply fantastic for what you'll need, and they're complete and utter bargains because of the image.Had one bulb go in that time.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&am...
in exactly the same spec, engine and mileage as the one above,after looking at 100K miles XJ's,7 series,LS400's etc.
It's simply fantastic for what you'll need, and they're complete and utter bargains because of the image.Had one bulb go in that time.
Porsche 928? It was designed to do exactly that. Although 30mpg is a bit optimistic, you might get 25 if you cruise slowly, say around 80-90. Or an Omega Elite, 3.0 or 2.5. I did some major miles in mine and it just went like the clappers very smoothly indeed. I did the same in my old Saab 900, so maybe a late 9000 with all the extras? Great seats...
sjc said:
Six months ago I bought one of these for 2300 quid
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&am...
in exactly the same spec, engine and mileage as the one above,after looking at 100K miles XJ's,7 series,LS400's etc.
It's simply fantastic for what you'll need, and they're complete and utter bargains because of the image.Had one bulb go in that time.
I am sure the V6 is smooth and quiet in your 75, but surely it cannot match a V8 which has around 1500cc more in cubic displacement?http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&am...
in exactly the same spec, engine and mileage as the one above,after looking at 100K miles XJ's,7 series,LS400's etc.
It's simply fantastic for what you'll need, and they're complete and utter bargains because of the image.Had one bulb go in that time.
mr_spock said:
Porsche 928? It was designed to do exactly that. Although 30mpg is a bit optimistic, you might get 25 if you cruise slowly, say around 80-90. Or an Omega Elite, 3.0 or 2.5. I did some major miles in mine and it just went like the clappers very smoothly indeed. I did the same in my old Saab 900, so maybe a late 9000 with all the extras? Great seats...
Is the Omega (even with the smooth V6 variants you mention) going to be a hushed silence at motorway speeds?They are excellent value, and a rare sight these days, but I want minimum cabin noise. I am not convinced about the Saabs for the same reason.
sjc said:
Six months ago I bought one of these for 2300 quid
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&am...
in exactly the same spec, engine and mileage as the one above,after looking at 100K miles XJ's,7 series,LS400's etc.
It's simply fantastic for what you'll need, and they're complete and utter bargains because of the image.Had one bulb go in that time.
Waft-tastic!!! I really want that!http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&am...
in exactly the same spec, engine and mileage as the one above,after looking at 100K miles XJ's,7 series,LS400's etc.
It's simply fantastic for what you'll need, and they're complete and utter bargains because of the image.Had one bulb go in that time.
R60EST said:
I would also suggest considering an Audi A8
The very elegant A8 version which came out in 2003 are outside my budget. Cannot find examples of these below £7500. But an amazing car for that price.The pre-2003 model is not a shape I am fond of. It has not aged too well, IMHO. Unlike the S class Merc of the same era.
DrYazz said:
sjc said:
Six months ago I bought one of these for 2300 quid
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&am...
in exactly the same spec, engine and mileage as the one above,after looking at 100K miles XJ's,7 series,LS400's etc.
It's simply fantastic for what you'll need, and they're complete and utter bargains because of the image.Had one bulb go in that time.
I am sure the V6 is smooth and quiet in your 75, but surely it cannot match a V8 which has around 1500cc more in cubic displacement?http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&am...
in exactly the same spec, engine and mileage as the one above,after looking at 100K miles XJ's,7 series,LS400's etc.
It's simply fantastic for what you'll need, and they're complete and utter bargains because of the image.Had one bulb go in that time.
heebeegeetee said:
How about a well specced Passat?
In reality probably as quiet and comfortable as anything else mentioned, plus you'd only need to stop once for fuel.
Just dont take one down a B road. Lousy suspension and comedy brakes with real friday afternoon build quality. I hated mine.In reality probably as quiet and comfortable as anything else mentioned, plus you'd only need to stop once for fuel.
JJM said:
Have you considered a late E39?
This is the 5-series BMW right? Just before Chris Bangle's 2004 angled offering.I have, but what I do not know is how less refined and quiet, if at all, the 5 series would be compared to the 7 series? Even if they had the same 6 or 8 cylinder engines?
skyslimit said:
heebeegeetee said:
How about a well specced Passat?
In reality probably as quiet and comfortable as anything else mentioned, plus you'd only need to stop once for fuel.
Just dont take one down a B road. Lousy suspension and comedy brakes with real friday afternoon build quality. I hated mine.In reality probably as quiet and comfortable as anything else mentioned, plus you'd only need to stop once for fuel.
DrYazz said:
JJM said:
Have you considered a late E39?
This is the 5-series BMW right? Just before Chris Bangle's 2004 angled offering.I have, but what I do not know is how less refined and quiet, if at all, the 5 series would be compared to the 7 series? Even if they had the same 6 or 8 cylinder engines?
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