Rim Stretching - the new tyre stretching!
Rim Stretching - the new tyre stretching!
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Mattt

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16,664 posts

248 months

Monday 24th May 2010
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Everyone caned the VW lot for the tyres (rightfully), but this seems almost as bad:

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

Cut the alloys, weld in a new bit, then stick back on the car! eek

4sure

2,438 posts

241 months

Monday 24th May 2010
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oo er missus !

Greenwich Ross

1,219 posts

203 months

Monday 24th May 2010
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I'd hate to have my rim stretched!

eek

Atomic Gibbon

13,018 posts

216 months

Monday 24th May 2010
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I can't for the life of me think why you'd want to do this - why not just buy split rims, and u can have any width / offset you need? Mind you, logic seemed to go out of fasion at VW events about 20 years ago, no doubt they'll be stretching steering wheels next =)

Superhoop

4,916 posts

223 months

Monday 24th May 2010
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Atomic Gibbon said:
I can't for the life of me think why you'd want to do this - why not just buy split rims, and u can have any width / offset you need? Mind you, logic seemed to go out of fasion at VW events about 20 years ago, no doubt they'll be stretching steering wheels next =)
Yeah, these VW boys are absolutely insane - Especially the ones that hang around in the Holden forum.... whistle

interloper

2,747 posts

285 months

Monday 24th May 2010
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Isn't this also known as a banded rim? They are completely illegal as far as I'm aware.

OnTheOverrun

3,965 posts

207 months

Monday 24th May 2010
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Coming to a rejected insurance payout near you soon! silly

PhillipM

6,564 posts

219 months

Tuesday 25th May 2010
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Now look what you've done.

Silent1

19,762 posts

265 months

Tuesday 25th May 2010
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Banded rims have been around for ever.

matty_doh

824 posts

208 months

Tuesday 25th May 2010
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I can't see the problem to be honest if done right.. (Though the title is worrying hehe)

I seem to recall 1" of weld (done well that is) can support 1 ton - So surely one of these done properly would make very little difference to the integrity of the wheel?

Edited by matty_doh on Tuesday 25th May 22:21

eldar

25,300 posts

226 months

Tuesday 25th May 2010
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Silent1 said:
Banded rims have been around for ever.
This is true, but they used to be steelies. Some were almost roundsmile

Silent1

19,762 posts

265 months

Tuesday 25th May 2010
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eldar said:
Silent1 said:
Banded rims have been around for ever.
This is true, but they used to be steelies. Some were almost roundsmile
Banded alloys, now there's a good idea rolleyes

PhillipM

6,564 posts

219 months

Tuesday 25th May 2010
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matty_doh said:
I seem to recall 1" of weld (done well that is) can support 1 ton
'S funny 'cause 10" of Compomotives' finest didn't like a big pothole, maybe we should replace it with welding:





Good tyre though.

Edited by PhillipM on Tuesday 25th May 22:38

anonymous-user

84 months

Tuesday 25th May 2010
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Well if you insist on making wheels out of kitchen foil...

Speed addicted

6,329 posts

257 months

Tuesday 25th May 2010
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matty_doh said:
I can't see the problem to be honest if done right.. (Though the title is worrying hehe)

I seem to recall 1" of weld (done well that is) can support 1 ton - So surely one of these done properly would make very little difference to the integrity of the wheel?

Edited by matty_doh on Tuesday 25th May 22:21
Welding changes the grain structure of the material, this can cause internal stresses if not properly heat treated. Welding cast alloy properly is very difficult, you tend to get gas pores and possible cracking.

So if you consider the sort of impact that hitting a pothole at 70mph would cause, on top of the forces your wheels normally cope with would you really want to risk the rim collapsing rather than just buying the right wheels in the first place?

Ahonen

5,032 posts

309 months

Tuesday 25th May 2010
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The thought of driving a car with, effectively, cut and shut wheels would make me feel somewhat uneasy. Even if the finest welder in all of Christendom had modified them I still wouldn't feel completely happy. Aside from the weld itself, the increase in stresses and bending moment in the area where the rim section meets the wheel centre would put me off a little - plus the wider tyres would offer more grip, which would increase the loadings still further.

Still, each to their own.

PhillipM

6,564 posts

219 months

Tuesday 25th May 2010
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Ahonen said:
Still, each to their own.
If only they weren't on the same roads as the rest of us eh? frown

OnTheOverrun

3,965 posts

207 months

Tuesday 25th May 2010
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I wonder how one goes about explaining 'banded' rims to ones insurer?

Herman Toothrot

6,702 posts

228 months

Tuesday 25th May 2010
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Does strike me as rather pikey, why not buy whatever sized wheels you want in the 1st place? The Monaros are not yet the preserve of the council estate chav so a new set of wheels shouldn't be out of reach of the owners? Compomotive or Image will make you whatever you want for not a great deal of money. I'm sure rimstock would even do one off's, I know my wheels were made to order from them and they were cheap as chips, no doubt a new set of tyres will cost more than the rims did.

T89 Callan

8,422 posts

223 months

Tuesday 25th May 2010
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Pistonhead: Slagging off something you don't understand since 1999!