USGP - Austin, Texas gets the decision from 2012
USGP - Austin, Texas gets the decision from 2012
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FourWheelDrift

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92,251 posts

313 months

Killer2005

20,587 posts

257 months

Tuesday 25th May 2010
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Very

On the odd chance Bernie reads this, please, please, please don't let Tilke design it

davepoth

29,395 posts

228 months

Tuesday 25th May 2010
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Excellent work; they give the USGP to possibly the only town in the entire USA that hates cars...

Gun

13,432 posts

247 months

Tuesday 25th May 2010
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Oh good, another Tilke circuit to look forward to.

Stu R

21,636 posts

244 months

Tuesday 25th May 2010
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Ugh, texas.

So many much more suitable, much nicer places in the states, and they pick Texas. It better be one hell of a track, but it won't, because wangerface Tilke will be penning it no doubt. Bilge.

FourWheelDrift

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92,251 posts

313 months

Tuesday 25th May 2010
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The last race track in Austin, the Austin Raceway Park - http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=30...

On the original track - "Some of the track's financial problems are said to have been due to its location across a county line, with both counties determined to levy taxes on it. Also, local farmers were unhappy with the noise from the cars upsetting their cows. A memorable feature of the track was the converted oil-drilling derrick that served as the control tower. "

You can just make out part of the layout. Closed in the 1970s and partly built upon.

So it's a blank canvas for the track, but Austin is very flat isn't it?

DangerousMike

11,327 posts

221 months

Tuesday 25th May 2010
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flat like silverstone!

please dont let tilke doing it... perhaps they will get an american to do it... there are some decent circuits in the US.

FourWheelDrift

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Tuesday 25th May 2010
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Photos of original Austin Raceway Park - http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?...

davepoth

29,395 posts

228 months

Tuesday 25th May 2010
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A couple of places that they could put it. There's the old municipal airport, about 2 miles north of the centre, although there are plans to build on that.

There's a short oval track about 20 miles south of Austin that the promoter of the GP has a lease on, so they could develop that, although the site's probably too small.

Aside from that there's some boggy ground north of the current airport. A lot of the land around the city is protected, which will limit things a bit.

FourWheelDrift

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313 months

Tuesday 25th May 2010
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Allegedly the father of the person behind it is an old friend of Bernie's.

team underdog

938 posts

258 months

Tuesday 25th May 2010
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Why not just race at an established track, one that has heritage, spectacle and will guarantee American interest? Austin Texas? I somehow doubt the locals will be interested in spending several hundred dollars to watch F1, on an unknown track, when they can spend far less to watch Nascar?

Corpulent Tosser

5,468 posts

274 months

Wednesday 26th May 2010
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FourWheelDrift said:
So it's a blank canvas for the track, but Austin is very flat isn't it?
It is quite flat around Austin, although it was described to me as hill country when I was invited to go there for a weekend, there certainly are rolling hills around Austin so it needn't be a flat featureless circuit.

Let see what they come up with before condemning it.


moffspeed

3,597 posts

236 months

Wednesday 26th May 2010
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I've got a better idea, a Welsh Grand Prix at Llandow. The circuit is already laid, there are some excellent viewing opportunities from the earth banks and there are quite a few local pubs that should be able to open up a few rooms if you want to stay over. The sheep could be put away for the weekend.

This is not a Tilke designed circuit* and has plenty of overtaking opportunities. At just over a mile in length exciting racing will be guaranteed and it has heritage - former world champions Jody Scheckter (Escort Mexico), James Hunt (Chevy Camaro) and Graham Hill (Datsun Bluebird) have all raced around the challenging oval :

  • the circuit was designed in the early 1960's and, long before Tilke nicked the idea for Shanghai, the layout reflects the Welsh character "O" - in deference to the local seaside village of Ogmore.

boycieboy

285 posts

231 months

Wednesday 26th May 2010
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FourWheelDrift said:
And they have been speaking to him for 'a few years' about a race there and no one new!

Very clever of Bernie to feed the media with info about NY race knowing Austin was looking the best.

Anyway, my mate lives in Austin....have already emailed him to book his spare room wink

Chuggaboom

1,152 posts

277 months

Wednesday 26th May 2010
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So which one is getting the chop....or are we having one more ?

Eric Mc

125,609 posts

294 months

Wednesday 26th May 2010
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I'll believe it when I see it.

A GP in Texas will be similar to a GP in Colorado - irrelevant to the locals and a bit of a curiosity.

Remember the Dallas GP of 1984?

onomatopoeia

3,526 posts

246 months

Wednesday 26th May 2010
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moffspeed said:
I've got a better idea, a Welsh Grand Prix at Llandow. The circuit is already laid, there are some excellent viewing opportunities from the earth banks and there are quite a few local pubs that should be able to open up a few rooms if you want to stay over. The sheep could be put away for the weekend.
Sprint there on Monday! Think it's a bit small for F1 cars though.

belleair302

7,008 posts

236 months

Wednesday 26th May 2010
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I just don't see this happening. Austin is too small a city regarding hotel rooms, the airport, hospitality etc.

Why the corporate bond holders and the suits who own F1 don't spend money doing research on the demographics of sports in the US amazes me? Where is the US $ 300 million going to come from to build the track, the medical facilities, the grandstands and the pit boxes / media facilities?

Are people going to travel from Chicago, New York, San Francisco, LA and Florida to Texas....NO!!!

This whole story smacks of media grabbing headlines.....how many more countries want GP's and how many team members want to live on the road never going home? Too many races in too many places where F1 and motorsport have no foundation!

Alfie Noakes

1,307 posts

299 months

Wednesday 26th May 2010
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Simon Gillet has changed his name and moved to Texas.

FourWheelDrift

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92,251 posts

313 months

Wednesday 26th May 2010
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Latest - http://adamcooperf1.com/2010/05/26/us-gp-promoter-...

No site, nothing started, big plans. Sounds like USF1 to me again.