When am I a student till?
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Baked_bean

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1,945 posts

219 months

Wednesday 26th May 2010
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Hey guys,
Wierd question. I've just finished uni and I have a summer job, I don't graduate until sept/oct so can i still work tax free until then? As I am technically still a student as I could (shouldn't do) be retaking over the summer and my student id etc expires in September.

Thanks

p.s I reckon you can guess what i want the answer to be.

W333

417 posts

250 months

Wednesday 26th May 2010
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I'm not sure you'll get away with it mate, its probably easier to take the hit rather than have to give it back later

Silver993tt

9,064 posts

266 months

Wednesday 26th May 2010
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If you've just finished uni, you've already had a lot of other people's tax money spent on you. Now it's time you started to pay it back.

HereBeMonsters

14,180 posts

209 months

Wednesday 26th May 2010
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Since when do students work tax free? I never did when I was a student.

N Dentressangle

3,453 posts

249 months

Wednesday 26th May 2010
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AFAIK you can still only earn a certain amount before tax in any tax year anyway.

Directgov or a similar site will have the answer.

Stevenj214

4,941 posts

255 months

Wednesday 26th May 2010
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Baked_bean said:
Hey guys,
Wierd question. I've just finished uni and I have a summer job, I don't graduate until sept/oct so can i still work tax free until then? As I am technically still a student as I could (shouldn't do) be retaking over the summer and my student id etc expires in September.

Thanks

p.s I reckon you can guess what i want the answer to be.
There isn't a student 'tax free' status, just the standard tax free limit which everyone has (around £6500 at the moment). Most students simply do not earn over this. If you will be earning over £6500 in a single tax year, you will pay tax.

Baked_bean

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Wednesday 26th May 2010
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HereBeMonsters said:
Since when do students work tax free? I never did when I was a student.
Don't know but its definitely the case for all students that I know. To 993tt it was just a question im happy paying it but don't want to unless I have to was just seeing if I do because I know the inland revenue will use any technicality to screw me out of money. I've also worked throughout uni, at one point I had two jobs so i had to pay dual job tax and i drive so i pay road tax. You make me sound like a painful drain on society.

Silver993tt

9,064 posts

266 months

Wednesday 26th May 2010
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Baked_bean said:
HereBeMonsters said:
Since when do students work tax free? I never did when I was a student.
Don't know but its definitely the case for all students that I know. To 993tt it was just a question im happy paying it but don't want to unless I have to was just seeing if I do because I know the inland revenue will use any technicality to screw me out of money. I've also worked throughout uni, at one point I had two jobs so i had to pay dual job tax and i drive so i pay road tax. You make me sound like a painful drain on society.
The Inland Revenue can't "screw" you out of anything. The lawas are defined and quite clear, they don't make them up on the fly. The fact that you might not currently know these laws/regulations suggests you should talk to an accountant.

Stevenj214

4,941 posts

255 months

Wednesday 26th May 2010
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Baked_bean said:
i had to pay dual job tax
1) I thought you were "tax free"?

2) What is "dual job tax"?!

Baked_bean

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Wednesday 26th May 2010
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Silver993tt said:
Baked_bean said:
HereBeMonsters said:
Since when do students work tax free? I never did when I was a student.
Don't know but its definitely the case for all students that I know. To 993tt it was just a question im happy paying it but don't want to unless I have to was just seeing if I do because I know the inland revenue will use any technicality to screw me out of money. I've also worked throughout uni, at one point I had two jobs so i had to pay dual job tax and i drive so i pay road tax. You make me sound like a painful drain on society.
The Inland Revenue can't "screw" you out of anything. The lawas are defined and quite clear, they don't make them up on the fly. The fact that you might not currently know these laws/regulations suggests you should talk to an accountant.
Well its ok, its not like im gonna be a tax dodger I'm happy to pay. Was just a simple question, i have now been informed. Thats the idea of posting on a forum, they are a useful source of information. I was Just responding to your post as i didn't care much for the tone.

Baked_bean

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Wednesday 26th May 2010
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Stevenj214 said:
Baked_bean said:
i had to pay dual job tax
1) I thought you were "tax free"?

2) What is "dual job tax"?!
Well as far as i knew you're tax free (upto a certain amount) when on a single payroll. And i was informed by the inland revenue that i had to pay tax on one of my jobs when i had two. If i was honest i don't know the ins and outs of the tax system, hence my original question!

navier_stokes

948 posts

226 months

Wednesday 26th May 2010
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Baked_bean said:
Silver993tt said:
Baked_bean said:
HereBeMonsters said:
Since when do students work tax free? I never did when I was a student.
Don't know but its definitely the case for all students that I know. To 993tt it was just a question im happy paying it but don't want to unless I have to was just seeing if I do because I know the inland revenue will use any technicality to screw me out of money. I've also worked throughout uni, at one point I had two jobs so i had to pay dual job tax and i drive so i pay road tax. You make me sound like a painful drain on society.
The Inland Revenue can't "screw" you out of anything. The lawas are defined and quite clear, they don't make them up on the fly. The fact that you might not currently know these laws/regulations suggests you should talk to an accountant.
Well its ok, its not like im gonna be a tax dodger I'm happy to pay. Was just a simple question, i have now been informed. Thats the idea of posting on a forum, they are a useful source of information. I was Just responding to your post as i didn't care much for the tone.
Students pay the same tax as everyone else. It's just most students don't earn more than their personal allowance, for which no tax is paid. If you will earn more than the personal allowance between this April and next, you will be paying tax...

Stevenj214

4,941 posts

255 months

Wednesday 26th May 2010
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Baked_bean said:
Stevenj214 said:
Baked_bean said:
i had to pay dual job tax
1) I thought you were "tax free"?

2) What is "dual job tax"?!
Well as far as i knew you're tax free (upto a certain amount) when on a single payroll. And i was informed by the inland revenue that i had to pay tax on one of my jobs when i had two. If i was honest i don't know the ins and outs of the tax system, hence my original question!
Essentially, the basics are:

  • Everyone has a "tax free" limit
  • Students rarely earn over this
  • If you have 2 jobs, the "tax free" limit may be split between them, or used on only 1
  • HMRC don't actively try to screw people (outwith the law)
  • They're actually quite helpful if you call them
Hope that helps a bit.

Baked_bean

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Wednesday 26th May 2010
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It's all good, i understand now. I'm only 20, i like to think that i will learn alot more about tax over the next few years.
Thanks.

Edited by Baked_bean on Wednesday 26th May 21:56

N Dentressangle

3,453 posts

249 months

Wednesday 26th May 2010
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Baked_bean said:
I'm only 20, i like to think that i will learn alot more about tax over the next few years.
I'd say that's a pretty safe bet. wink

http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/students/
http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/MoneyTaxAndBenefits/Ta...

are the sites to look at. Enjoy your final months of freedom!

HereBeMonsters

14,180 posts

209 months

Wednesday 26th May 2010
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navier_stokes said:
Baked_bean said:
Silver993tt said:
Baked_bean said:
HereBeMonsters said:
Since when do students work tax free? I never did when I was a student.
Don't know but its definitely the case for all students that I know. To 993tt it was just a question im happy paying it but don't want to unless I have to was just seeing if I do because I know the inland revenue will use any technicality to screw me out of money. I've also worked throughout uni, at one point I had two jobs so i had to pay dual job tax and i drive so i pay road tax. You make me sound like a painful drain on society.
The Inland Revenue can't "screw" you out of anything. The lawas are defined and quite clear, they don't make them up on the fly. The fact that you might not currently know these laws/regulations suggests you should talk to an accountant.
Well its ok, its not like im gonna be a tax dodger I'm happy to pay. Was just a simple question, i have now been informed. Thats the idea of posting on a forum, they are a useful source of information. I was Just responding to your post as i didn't care much for the tone.
Students pay the same tax as everyone else. It's just most students don't earn more than their personal allowance, for which no tax is paid. If you will earn more than the personal allowance between this April and next, you will be paying tax...
Ah, that's probably the issue then. I was IT contracting in all the holidays, making about £500 a week, then worked 6 nights a week as the manager of the Union bar when I was there to pay my way. Well, except the first year, where I spunked my entire £5000 loan, the £6000 I had saved up in my gap year and still ended up short of rent by the end of it. I did buy an MG Midget though.