Any BIB have info. on fast-track recruitment?
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Oh, god........not another Brunstrom........!
What does it entail?
The destruction of the police service, so far.........
Edited to say the essential prerequisite is that you're a natural born prat. Other, less important, qualities require you to be a pedantic manager with no talent for, or experience of, police work, a fanatical belief in political corectness and your own infallibility.........
>> Edited by mybrainhurts on Saturday 6th March 17:03
>> Edited by mybrainhurts on Saturday 6th March 17:18
What does it entail?
The destruction of the police service, so far.........
Edited to say the essential prerequisite is that you're a natural born prat. Other, less important, qualities require you to be a pedantic manager with no talent for, or experience of, police work, a fanatical belief in political corectness and your own infallibility.........
>> Edited by mybrainhurts on Saturday 6th March 17:03
>> Edited by mybrainhurts on Saturday 6th March 17:18
Julian
The scheme you speak of is called the High Potential Development Scheme, HPDS for short. It replaced the previous Accelerated Promotion Scheme (APS) and Accelerated Promotion Scheme for Graduates (APSG).
Clearly the scheme is looking for high calibre candidates. The aim of the scheme is to identify people who have the potential to reach Superintendent rank in a short space of time. How short depends on the individual, but the nature of the scheme means that those on it will always be looking for their next promotion.
You can apply to go on it before you join, and and any time once you have actually joined, and there are three opportunities to get on the scheme each year.
The selection process is very tough. It starts with an application form, here you need to outline how you meet certain compentency areas. If successful at this stage, you will attend an assessment centre. If you pass that, you will go on to a formal one-to-one interview, with some senior Officers. If you pass that, (!) you are offered a place on the scheme.
This incidently, will be in addition, for the most part to the "normal" recruit application process.
It's a lot of pressure, and the pressure will not stop. If you don't like the sound of this at the moment, then if you really want to be a Police Officer (HPDS selection will weed out those who don't) then apply normally. Once in, you can set about taking your Sergeants exams as you come out of your probation, and give consideration to HPDS then.
Good luck!
The scheme you speak of is called the High Potential Development Scheme, HPDS for short. It replaced the previous Accelerated Promotion Scheme (APS) and Accelerated Promotion Scheme for Graduates (APSG).
Clearly the scheme is looking for high calibre candidates. The aim of the scheme is to identify people who have the potential to reach Superintendent rank in a short space of time. How short depends on the individual, but the nature of the scheme means that those on it will always be looking for their next promotion.
You can apply to go on it before you join, and and any time once you have actually joined, and there are three opportunities to get on the scheme each year.
The selection process is very tough. It starts with an application form, here you need to outline how you meet certain compentency areas. If successful at this stage, you will attend an assessment centre. If you pass that, you will go on to a formal one-to-one interview, with some senior Officers. If you pass that, (!) you are offered a place on the scheme.
This incidently, will be in addition, for the most part to the "normal" recruit application process.
It's a lot of pressure, and the pressure will not stop. If you don't like the sound of this at the moment, then if you really want to be a Police Officer (HPDS selection will weed out those who don't) then apply normally. Once in, you can set about taking your Sergeants exams as you come out of your probation, and give consideration to HPDS then.
Good luck!
mybrainhurts said:
Errrrr.....................
I'm a little confused. Were you originally criticising myself for wanting to join the police, or the High Potential Development Scheme? I (and others it seems) had assumed the former.
Edited to say: having re-read you comments, It's a bit more obvious that you dislike the HPDS - are/were you a police officer yourself?
>> Edited by julianhj on Saturday 6th March 18:38
julianhj said:
Errrrr.....................
I'm a little confused. Were you originally criticising myself for wanting to join the police, or the High Potential Development Scheme? I (and others it seems) had assumed the former.
Edited to say: having re-read you comments, It's a bit more obvious that you dislike the HPDS - are/were you a police officer yourself?
Sorry, Julian, absolutely not having a go at you. Your interest in being here would, I hope, make you a more enlightened plod.
No, I'm not/have not been a police officer. Just been turned into a cynic after talking to retired officers, who confirm the sad tales we hear in the media about lions being led by donkeys, the worst of whom appear to have been fast tracked.
They don't fast track medical consultants. I wonder why not?
The accelerated promotion scheme is a good scheme for progressing through the ranks at a lightning quick pace.
As a a police officer that has not gone through the scheme I have an opinion on it.
The higher you get in the police force, the less actual policing you do. I mean this not in an inflammatory way, but you are piloting a desk. There is no way that you can recieve a code1 job, jump in a police car, respond appropriately, get to the job, deal with it and arrest any offenders. It doesn't happen. I joined for that reason, and know that I wouldn't be very good at being a superintendent anyway..
I think there is no need for the Accelerated promotion scheme nowadays, there are more than enough opportunities for officers to get their own promotion rather than being 'nursemaided' through it by being put in places designed for them.
Previously, when promotion was very difficult it was the way ahead. I think we have moved on.
I know a chap that joined up, was a Sgt at 5 yrs, lost contact for a few years, he is now a chief inspector, due his superintendent rank and is destined for very high things.
He was a very good police officer on the street, happy getting his hands dirty, a good custody sgt and a nice bloke too.
He did this on his own, and not guaranteed any promotion.
This is the person who will get respect, by being a natural leader, and not a forced one.
Personally I think that if you are going for promotion, you join the job, do the grass roots work and decide for yourself and not be told when you are going to be promoted.
Hopefully I haven't been percieved as negative, and bitter and twisted. I most certainly am not, but have given what I think to be a view from rank and file officers that have put the effort in the hard way.
Julian - if you want I can have a word with personnel as to the finer points of joining on the scheme if you would like me to.
Best to all.
Mike.
As a a police officer that has not gone through the scheme I have an opinion on it.
The higher you get in the police force, the less actual policing you do. I mean this not in an inflammatory way, but you are piloting a desk. There is no way that you can recieve a code1 job, jump in a police car, respond appropriately, get to the job, deal with it and arrest any offenders. It doesn't happen. I joined for that reason, and know that I wouldn't be very good at being a superintendent anyway..
I think there is no need for the Accelerated promotion scheme nowadays, there are more than enough opportunities for officers to get their own promotion rather than being 'nursemaided' through it by being put in places designed for them.
Previously, when promotion was very difficult it was the way ahead. I think we have moved on.
I know a chap that joined up, was a Sgt at 5 yrs, lost contact for a few years, he is now a chief inspector, due his superintendent rank and is destined for very high things.
He was a very good police officer on the street, happy getting his hands dirty, a good custody sgt and a nice bloke too.
He did this on his own, and not guaranteed any promotion.
This is the person who will get respect, by being a natural leader, and not a forced one.
Personally I think that if you are going for promotion, you join the job, do the grass roots work and decide for yourself and not be told when you are going to be promoted.
Hopefully I haven't been percieved as negative, and bitter and twisted. I most certainly am not, but have given what I think to be a view from rank and file officers that have put the effort in the hard way.
Julian - if you want I can have a word with personnel as to the finer points of joining on the scheme if you would like me to.
Best to all.
Mike.
Julian - You'll need to get the forms back asap to start the recruitment process. I applied to West Mids in late December 2002/early Jan 03 - wasn't contacted then for approximately 3 months before filling in more forms then waiting then doing my assesment centre day on 27th November 03, it was five weeks later that i heard i had been succesful, then Jan 04 before i heard that i had a medical booked for 25th March 04, then it will be a wait for the fitness then upto five weeks for an offer of employment. So from first applying in December 2002 it could be May 04 before i start the training centre!!
Best of luck
Lee
Best of luck
Lee
mybrainhurts said:
They don't fast track medical consultants. I wonder why not?
On the radio this weekend they were talking about exactly that. They want to reduce the training time because consultants learn all sorts of stuff they "don't need to know"
. The fast-track scheme will still turn out consultants who are "fit for purpose". That's ok then. Gassing Station | Speed, Plod & the Law | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff