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GTO Scott

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253 months

Thursday 27th May 2010
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Well, having sold the black GTO I ended up buying a red GTO. On the way home the idler pulley and water pump seized, shredding the cambelt. The AA took the car straight to Sumiyaka who specialise in GTO/3000GT's, for repair. 4 weeks later and with 24 valves replaced and the heads completely rebuilt, I picked the car up and could actually enjoy it!

Here's a few pictures from the weekend:













I need to change the wheels (currently running inch-thick spacers to help the current alloys clear the brakes) and get the suspension set up, but for now it'll do as it is.

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autopium

13 posts

196 months

Thursday 27th May 2010
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A nice reliable purchase then? wink

007 VXR

64,187 posts

216 months

Thursday 27th May 2010
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great pics and nice looking car ..
have to ask .. what was wrong with the black gto ???

GTO Scott

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Thursday 27th May 2010
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007 VXR said:
great pics and nice looking car ..
have to ask .. what was wrong with the black gto ???
I sold the black one because it was looking rather tired, and this one came up at a price I couldn't refuse. The plan was to drive it home, book it in for a cambelt change the next day and all would have been well. Still, at least now I know the car has been properly sorted.

007 VXR

64,187 posts

216 months

Thursday 27th May 2010
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GTO Scott said:
007 VXR said:
great pics and nice looking car ..
have to ask .. what was wrong with the black gto ???
I sold the black one because it was looking rather tired, and this one came up at a price I couldn't refuse. The plan was to drive it home, book it in for a cambelt change the next day and all would have been well. Still, at least now I know the car has been properly sorted.
bad luck frown
but as you say sorted now smile
any other plans for modding ??

Edited by 007 VXR on Thursday 27th May 20:48

fabienne

64 posts

296 months

Thursday 27th May 2010
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Great pictures and cracking car well done.

pugwash4x4

7,675 posts

250 months

Thursday 27th May 2010
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any chance of an "owners review".

Always quite fancied one but never really seen a review or much from peopl who have one.

GTO Scott

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Thursday 27th May 2010
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007 VXR said:
bad luck frown
but as you say sorted now smile
any other plans for modding ??

Edited by 007 VXR on Thursday 27th May 20:48
Yep biggrin

The front end had been upgraded to full Mk.4 99-spec before I bought it, I have most of the other parts needed to go for a full Mk.4 conversion so at some stage i'll get them fitted. A decent set of brakes is on the list too.

The interior is in good condition, but at some stage i'd like to have it retrimmed.

007 VXR

64,187 posts

216 months

Thursday 27th May 2010
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GTO Scott said:
007 VXR said:
bad luck frown
but as you say sorted now smile
any other plans for modding ??

Edited by 007 VXR on Thursday 27th May 20:48
Yep biggrin

The front end had been upgraded to full Mk.4 99-spec before I bought it, I have most of the other parts needed to go for a full Mk.4 conversion so at some stage i'll get them fitted. A decent set of brakes is on the list too.

The interior is in good condition, but at some stage i'd like to have it retrimmed.
cool .. will watch out for updates biggrin

MGZRod

8,176 posts

205 months

Thursday 27th May 2010
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Been pulled for the tyres poking out the arches yet? hehe

GTO Scott

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Thursday 27th May 2010
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pugwash4x4 said:
any chance of an "owners review".

Always quite fancied one but never really seen a review or much from peopl who have one.
Certainly!

Having owned GTO's for the last 6 years i'd say i've got a rough idea of what ownership can be like laugh

I was originally drawn to them by a drive in my Dad's GTO. I loved the looks, the power and the comfort. My first was a non-turbo automatic - a car weighing close to 1800kg with a 3 litre 220bhp V6 was never going to set the world on fire, but for the 20 year old me, it was about as good as I could get, and certainly all I could afford to insure. Eventually though, the need for more power came along and I part-exchanged it for the cheapest ropiest twin turbo I could find.

Now, as with many high-performance cars, maintenance is critical. The TT I bought hadn't had a shred of care or attention given to it for some time, and I paid the price - the cambelt slipped 48 hours after buying the car. Eventually the car got sold and I spent a decent amount to buy the GTO that started the obsession for me - Dad's black TT. This car had been looked after - it gave me 4 years of almost perfect service. The only problems were the clutch master-slave flexi-hose popping (a common fault, cured by fitting a braided replacement from Goodridge) and the clutch itself failing.

As a driving experience, if you want something that will report every sensation to your fingertips and toes, look elsewhere. It's not far shy of two tons and has all-wheel drive, all-wheel steer and adaptive suspension which all hinders the feel being transmitted to you. If you want a stonking GT bruiser that'll take you across countries and continents in comfort and speed, then a GTO is well worth a look. Some people cannot get on with the 'insulated' feel, but I found it's a matter of learning the car - the more I drive them, the more I explore just how far I can push. If you do want to sharpen up the feel, fit a decent set of coilovers, though you will reduce the comfort levels. Mine has Teins fitted with the EDFC controller, which I found is much better than the 'normal' non-EDFC setup. For such a big car, whether on standard or aftermarket suspension, they really can be thrown around corners. If the car feels soggy and sloppy, it's probably still on it's original suspension.

The engine is superb - a 2972cc V6 developing 280bhp in all versions (don't believe claims of 320bhp for the UK spec 3000GT, although it has slightly bigger turbos they are more to do with running on lower-quality UK fuel). A standard GTO/3000GT should be capable of 0-60 in less than 5.5 seconds, a top speed somewhere around 160mph and quarter-mile times in the mid 13's. Plenty of people will try to tell you they've had 180+ mph from a standard GTO - either their speedo has problems or they need to go to specsavers. The 6G72 isn't particularly complicated, even if the underbonnet view looks cramped. Basic power increases are easy - a decent electronic boost controller, exhaust and air filter along with an engine in decent well maintained condition is quite capable of 350bhp. There are 3000GT's in the States pushing over 1200bhp.

The GTO/3000GT has a rather poor reputation for reliablity - quite unfounded in my experience, provided the car is properly maintained. Service intervals are crucial, as are regular oil and filter changes. A cambelt change isn't enough - the idler pulley, water pump and tensioner pulley as well as the tensioner itself, and a few small parts need to be replaced at the same time. Too many cars have suffered through a lack of servicing or half-arsed jobs done by people who don't understand the cars. I can't stress this enough - have the car looked after by someone who knows and understands them - and I don't mean Mitsubishi. They see these motors so infrequently (only 650-odd UK-spec 3000GT's were ever sold over here) they're usually left scratching their heads. It's not uncommon for the specialists to get calls from Mitsubishi UK asking how to do certain jobs.

I'd recommend you head over to www.gtouk.org.uk/phpBB2/index.php and read the Buyer's Guide. There's tons of useful info on the forums.

If you'd like any more info, let me know biggrin

Edited by GTO Scott on Thursday 27th May 22:23

GTO Scott

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Thursday 27th May 2010
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MGZRod said:
Been pulled for the tyres poking out the arches yet? hehe
No, but that and the spacers are the reason a replacement set of wheels are winging their way to me as I type biggrin

007 VXR

64,187 posts

216 months

Thursday 27th May 2010
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yikes now thats what you call an answer laugh

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soad

34,632 posts

205 months

Friday 28th May 2010
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Great write up, cheers for that.

Car looks super too thumbup

Speedracer329

1,507 posts

206 months

Friday 28th May 2010
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Nice car, I am sure you will enjoy it for a long time to come. Lets hope that your bad luck on the drive home is the last of the bad luck. I had one of these recently, not a second of trouble, drove beautifully, & in many ways was sorry to see it go, but I just HAD to have a XJR, & touch wood all ok there up to now. Funny thing though, when the new owner of my 3000GT drove home he went too fast over a speed bump & bottomed the sump, put a hole through the rad, stopped the front aero working, & the alarm came on & wouldn't go off! Hope he has sorted it by now.

GTO Scott

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3,816 posts

253 months

Tuesday 18th January 2011
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Finally managed to sack off the crap rotten single-exit exhaust in favour of a Sumiyaka custom-built T316L stainless quad-exit setup:



Sounds much nicer and looks far better too smile

bmthnick1981

5,320 posts

245 months

Tuesday 18th January 2011
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Thanks for the write-up, learn something everyday!

james_gt3rs

4,816 posts

220 months

Tuesday 18th January 2011
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GTO Scott said:
Finally managed to sack off the crap rotten single-exit exhaust in favour of a Sumiyaka custom-built T316L stainless quad-exit setup:



Sounds much nicer and looks far better too smile
I love 90's Japanese car design biggrin

kwakus

267 posts

203 months

Tuesday 18th January 2011
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I have always liked these, looks tidy too. ANy pics of the new wheels. The new exhaust looks much neater

GTO Scott

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Tuesday 18th January 2011
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kwakus said:
I have always liked these, looks tidy too. ANy pics of the new wheels. The new exhaust looks much neater
Not yet, I need to paint them really.

Also passed it's MoT earlier today party