To sell? Or not to sell?
To sell? Or not to sell?
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doodles19

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2,201 posts

203 months

Friday 28th May 2010
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Hey guys,

a friend of mine has been umming and arring of late over what he should do about his Fiesta zetec s (mk6).


His options are:

  • Keep the zetec s, and enjoy having a nice modern car and just keep maintaining that making sure its running sweet.
  • Sell the zetec s, buy a 106 gti for around the 2k mark (so a good'urn), fit a full cage to it as well as some proper seats and choice upgrades all round. Then on top of this buy a motorbike as well as kit smile.



So, Pistonheads, what do you think, modern mk6 zetec s, or the now 10/11 year old 106 gti and a motorbike?



ArtVandelay

6,692 posts

214 months

Friday 28th May 2010
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How old is your friend? Insurance not an issue?

Jonboy_t

5,038 posts

213 months

Friday 28th May 2010
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Or spend whatever he gets for the Fiesta on something like an MX5 and have the best of both worlds?!

doodles19

Original Poster:

2,201 posts

203 months

Friday 28th May 2010
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19, insurance for the two is similar (ztec-s vs gti I mean)

Been driving for 2 and a half years, 1 years no claims.


anonymous-user

84 months

Friday 28th May 2010
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So sell a reasonable car and replace it with a chaved up 106? I would keep the fiesta.


Well actually what I would do would be sell the fiesta and buy some thing fun: bmw, mx5 etc etc

doodles19

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Friday 28th May 2010
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champ54321 said:
So sell a reasonable car and replace it with a chaved up 106? I would keep the fiesta.


Well actually what I would do would be sell the fiesta and buy some thing fun: bmw, mx5 etc etc
The reason he was considering it, was not for looks or reputation, but the fact that the GTI is one of the best regarded cars handling wise, as well as being quicker than a ztec-s, 100bhp vs 130(??)

ArtVandelay

6,692 posts

214 months

Friday 28th May 2010
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champ54321 said:
So sell a reasonable car and replace it with a chaved up 106? I would keep the fiesta.


Well actually what I would do would be sell the fiesta and buy some thing fun: bmw, mx5 etc etc
I'd hardly call a 106 GTi charved up. Fitting a rollcage etc is quite the opposite, he is simply improving a car which is already highly regarded.

If as you say above, insurance isn't an issue, I would sell. 106's are becoming increasingly cheap and it's only a matter of time before they go the way of the Saxo or the Renault 5. He'll have to declare the mods remember, so his premium is likely to increase should he fettle with it.

anonymous-user

84 months

Friday 28th May 2010
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ArtVandelay said:
champ54321 said:
So sell a reasonable car and replace it with a chaved up 106? I would keep the fiesta.


Well actually what I would do would be sell the fiesta and buy some thing fun: bmw, mx5 etc etc
I'd hardly call a 106 GTi charved up. Fitting a rollcage etc is quite the opposite, he is simply improving a car which is already highly regarded.
Unless it is going to be a track car, I would definitly call a small car to be used on the road with a rollcage chavved up. It basically means it going to be driven like an idiot.

doodles19

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2,201 posts

203 months

Friday 28th May 2010
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champ54321 said:
ArtVandelay said:
champ54321 said:
So sell a reasonable car and replace it with a chaved up 106? I would keep the fiesta.


Well actually what I would do would be sell the fiesta and buy some thing fun: bmw, mx5 etc etc
I'd hardly call a 106 GTi charved up. Fitting a rollcage etc is quite the opposite, he is simply improving a car which is already highly regarded.
Unless it is going to be a track car, I would definitly call a small car to be used on the road with a rollcage chavved up. It basically means it going to be driven like an idiot.
Have you seen pictures of how wafer thin and easily crumpled 106/saxos are, the cage would simply be to provide a little bit of extra safety in the event of a crash.

And yes it would be used on the track, however, easy on the stereotypes there chap.










Now tell me you wouldn't want a cage in one.

soad

34,680 posts

206 months

Friday 28th May 2010
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doodles19 said:
or the now 10/11 year old 106 gti and a motorbike?
This for me but everyone is different. smile
With cage built-in, naturally.

Christ, that picture looks bad. frown

Edited by soad on Friday 28th May 13:28

louismchuge

1,644 posts

214 months

Friday 28th May 2010
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doodles19 said:


Now tell me you wouldn't want a cage in one.
Surely that pic should make him think twice about buying a small old car AND a motorbike?!

doodles19

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Friday 28th May 2010
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soad said:
doodles19 said:
or the now 10/11 year old 106 gti and a motorbike?
This for me but everyone is different. smile

HTH
Though not the two sort of binded together as in the picture smile

djt100

1,741 posts

215 months

Friday 28th May 2010
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if i remember rightly, if he's 19 he'll only be able to get a 33bhp bike .. so pointless!!..

S18DMW

20,032 posts

197 months

Friday 28th May 2010
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I'd go for the 106 and motorbike route everytime, 106gti's are great cars, quick enough to be fun, handle brilliantly especially after some suspension mods and they're pretty cheap to insure for what they are.

doodles19

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Friday 28th May 2010
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djt100 said:
if i remember rightly, if he's 19 he'll only be able to get a 33bhp bike .. so pointless!!..
Got to start somewhere. smile

Danny S

7,543 posts

198 months

Friday 28th May 2010
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insurance on a Zetec S and a GTi wont be similar mate, just a heads up

doodles19

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Friday 28th May 2010
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Danny S said:
insurance on a Zetec S and a GTi wont be similar mate, just a heads up
this is what I thought, however he has assured me that quotes for both come back with similar prices.

TommyBuoy

1,299 posts

197 months

Friday 28th May 2010
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It would have to be keep and maintain for me.

I'm 23, and the idea of leaving a relatively refined car and move to the 106 GTi would leave me cold. As a track day car the 106 would be more fun than the Zetec S in standard from, but day to day I can see a caged 106 being a bit bothersome.

I agree that you have to start somewhere with regards to motorbikes, but why not wait and not be limited?



10 Pence Short

32,880 posts

247 months

Friday 28th May 2010
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Has he tried an insurance quote for a 106 and a roll cage? What was the difference?

I'd expect to get proper bum raped by an insurer for fitting a cage.

ManOpener

12,467 posts

199 months

Friday 28th May 2010
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doodles19 said:
Have you seen pictures of how wafer thin and easily crumpled 106/saxos are, the cage would simply be to provide a little bit of extra safety in the event of a crash.

And yes it would be used on the track, however, easy on the stereotypes there chap.



Now tell me you wouldn't want a cage in one.
How on earth can a major car company get away with selling something that structurally unsound as recently as 10 years ago? It's like building a house out of twigs and dung...