A6 3.0TDI Thoughts?
Discussion
Hi all,
contemplating an Audi A6 3.0 TDI S-line or Le-Mans (around 2007 vintage), not overly fussed on auto/man either. Anyone got one and share some opinions with me? how is reliability, fuel consumption etc? Finally, apart from the wheels is there much difference between s-line and le Mans?
thanks in advance!
contemplating an Audi A6 3.0 TDI S-line or Le-Mans (around 2007 vintage), not overly fussed on auto/man either. Anyone got one and share some opinions with me? how is reliability, fuel consumption etc? Finally, apart from the wheels is there much difference between s-line and le Mans?
thanks in advance!
Edited by agentsmith on Tuesday 1st June 11:27
I had a brand new demonstrator 3.0Tdi Avant with all of 150 miles on it for a few days last week as my A5 was in for some warranty work. Very nice car but the one thing I did find particularly irritating was the hesitation on trying to pull away quickly with the Tiptronic gearbox. A second doesn't sound much, but when your trying to pull out of a junction on a busy road with your foot flat on the floor and nothing happening it can be a bit alarming, especially when it does realise you do actually want it to get a moveon and then hurls itself at the scenery 
. Putting it in sport mode improves it but spoils the relaxed feeling the car normally has. I think the one I had was just the normal S-line and had the full Nav setup which was good. Didn't think much of the stereo though, dont think it had BOSE and sounded very wooly but then I'm used to the full monty B&O in mine so thats expected. Overall it was a nice comfortable car but not sure I could get on with that gearbox.
. Putting it in sport mode improves it but spoils the relaxed feeling the car normally has. I think the one I had was just the normal S-line and had the full Nav setup which was good. Didn't think much of the stereo though, dont think it had BOSE and sounded very wooly but then I'm used to the full monty B&O in mine so thats expected. Overall it was a nice comfortable car but not sure I could get on with that gearbox.Cupramax said:
I had a brand new demonstrator 3.0Tdi Avant with all of 150 miles on it for a few days last week as my A5 was in for some warranty work. Very nice car but the one thing I did find particularly irritating was the hesitation on trying to pull away quickly with the Tiptronic gearbox. A second doesn't sound much, but when your trying to pull out of a junction on a busy road with your foot flat on the floor and nothing happening it can be a bit alarming, especially when it does realise you do actually want it to get a moveon and then hurls itself at the scenery . Putting it in sport mode improves it but spoils the relaxed feeling the car normally has. I think the one I had was just the normal S-line and had the full Nav setup which was good. Didn't think much of the stereo though, dont think it had BOSE and sounded very wooly but then I'm used to the full monty B&O in mine so thats expected. Overall it was a nice comfortable car but not sure I could get on with that gearbox.
Sure it was tip and not Multi?? . Putting it in sport mode improves it but spoils the relaxed feeling the car normally has. I think the one I had was just the normal S-line and had the full Nav setup which was good. Didn't think much of the stereo though, dont think it had BOSE and sounded very wooly but then I'm used to the full monty B&O in mine so thats expected. Overall it was a nice comfortable car but not sure I could get on with that gearbox.i assume the reason it felt hesitant is that it defaults to starting in 2nd gear and then changes to 1st if you stick the boot down. With sport I assume it starts in 1st gear so delay is not evident?
tbh, I would prefer a manual. theres seemingly a bunch coming down the line in the auctions (all VW FS. 1 tomorrow, 2 on the 3rd) but not so much selection elsewhere (trader, pistonheads, or even audi's site).
tbh, I would prefer a manual. theres seemingly a bunch coming down the line in the auctions (all VW FS. 1 tomorrow, 2 on the 3rd) but not so much selection elsewhere (trader, pistonheads, or even audi's site).
Had ours for about a year now (2006 avant tip le mans). Great on smooth roads but might prove a little too harsh a ride for some on anything bumpy. There is a mild hesitation in the gearbox but you just get used to it and anticipate. Can't recall the exact differences between S-line and Le Mans, but might be Xenons, heated seats and the very nice looking wheels. I'd had the use for a BMW 520D for a couple of weeks prior to deciding in favour of the Audi when my Lambo was in for work and while the BMW was good in some respects I just felt the Audi was a much better all-round package.
Most out there seem to be tiptronic and dealers will say that manuals are less popular and usually worth less. Personally I don't buy that as the rarity compensates for the lesser demand when it comes to used ones. The tip is actually very good and works very well most of the time and the override options are as comprehensive as you could wish for. Takes a little getting used to the paddles as you have to register the changes in advance but again you soon get used to it.
The three things I hate most about it are the ride (my Lambo is much better...) the economy (current average is 31.7!) and the road tax bill...top bracket meaning about £435! If I was going to do it all again, I'd think quite seriously about the manual but I'm sure I'd end up with the Le Mans again rather than any of the softer versions.
If you have the manual version you'd probably get up to 4mpg more plus you will be in a lower road tax bracket too (ours is only 1g into the highest bracket).
Quite a lot of varied options for them; ours was a fairly high spec already but we added DAB (turns out to be mostly useless in our area) and the Ipod interface plus the phone add-on thing that fits in the armrest (my old Nokia N85 wouldn't download phone contacts otherwise). The Bose works very well indeed; worth getting one with that if you can.
Most out there seem to be tiptronic and dealers will say that manuals are less popular and usually worth less. Personally I don't buy that as the rarity compensates for the lesser demand when it comes to used ones. The tip is actually very good and works very well most of the time and the override options are as comprehensive as you could wish for. Takes a little getting used to the paddles as you have to register the changes in advance but again you soon get used to it.
The three things I hate most about it are the ride (my Lambo is much better...) the economy (current average is 31.7!) and the road tax bill...top bracket meaning about £435! If I was going to do it all again, I'd think quite seriously about the manual but I'm sure I'd end up with the Le Mans again rather than any of the softer versions.
If you have the manual version you'd probably get up to 4mpg more plus you will be in a lower road tax bracket too (ours is only 1g into the highest bracket).
Quite a lot of varied options for them; ours was a fairly high spec already but we added DAB (turns out to be mostly useless in our area) and the Ipod interface plus the phone add-on thing that fits in the armrest (my old Nokia N85 wouldn't download phone contacts otherwise). The Bose works very well indeed; worth getting one with that if you can.
Cupramax said:
Very nice car but the one thing I did find particularly irritating was the hesitation on trying to pull away quickly with the Tiptronic gearbox. A second doesn't sound much, but when your trying to pull out of a junction on a busy road with your foot flat on the floor and nothing happening it can be a bit alarming, especially when it does realise you do actually want it to get a moveon and then hurls itself at the scenery .
Same on all models with the 3.0TDi. Done apparently to avoid warranty claims on clutches beiing burnt out, but the same map is used on autos too.. Dr G said:
Gearbox in sport, handbrake on, don't touch the foot brake at all and punch the throttle.
Did this once, went like a scalded cat, but I did'nt like the noise it made taking the handbrake off!Make sure the one you looking at has the revised fuel injectors, as early models had terrible ones, a full set of 6 costs over £2500 fitted, I managed to negotiate mine to £1200, be warned. Telltale signs are, excessive white smoke from exhaust when idle (a few minutes is all it takes to test this) and poor fuel consumption, I was getting 26MPG, now getting 40+.
thanks for the comments guys.
the injectors you mention , could I assume that was 2004/2005 - and anything like 2006/2007 should have them?
Another question I have: what ipod/mp3 connectivity is standard? aux input? I've seen various AMI's on ebay for 200-300quid which would handle full on track listing etc.
The A6 on autoquake went from 17777 to 17300 today, and then 26mins later back up to 17700. Dont know if it was finger trouble or their systems way of detecting real buyer interest.
the injectors you mention , could I assume that was 2004/2005 - and anything like 2006/2007 should have them?
Another question I have: what ipod/mp3 connectivity is standard? aux input? I've seen various AMI's on ebay for 200-300quid which would handle full on track listing etc.
The A6 on autoquake went from 17777 to 17300 today, and then 26mins later back up to 17700. Dont know if it was finger trouble or their systems way of detecting real buyer interest.
I have a 2007 A6 Le Mans 3.0tdi Tiptonic and have owned the car from new.
Generally it has been a p;leasure, plenty of power, 42mpg on the motorway and 36 average. I have done 60k miles in it without any mechanical problems. There have been a number of issues with the MMI particularly the bluetooth phone module which has been replaced along with the cd player 3 times. All don under warranty but not cheap if you pay for it yourself. Mind you, thats all sorted now and everything is fine.
There is no Ipod connection as standard, it was an option, or can be retro fitted. Original Pirelli Pzero rosso tyres are horrid and wear fast, dunlops or vredstein are much better.
Running costs are pretty good, my car has a service roughly every 18000 miles, and shopping around the dealers can get a reasonable price. Front discs and pads lasted 40k miles, rears still going fine.
I have toured France and Switzerland in the car and always been relaxed and comfy even after a long day. The Le Mans looks good with its bigger 19 inch wheels and gets lots of positice comments. Its the first volume car I have had where people come up to me and say "nice car" etc. Its great on wet motorways, none of those heart stopping aquaplaning moments, and its not too bad in the snow, certainly better than a 2wd car.
Its faster in sport mode than using the tiptronic padles as throttle response is sharpened and the gear changes are more agressive. Mostly I use it in normal auto mode and its still quicketr than many other cars at overtaking and at the traffic light grand prix.
I am not sure what they are worth at the moment, although I am toying with selling mine as 90% of the time I am in it on my own, just need to persuade Mrs Blue that a 2 seater everyday car is fine for me. If I fail I will probably buy another, although I am tempted to keep this one for another few years if Mrs Blue cannot be persuaded.
Buy one, yu wont regret it
Generally it has been a p;leasure, plenty of power, 42mpg on the motorway and 36 average. I have done 60k miles in it without any mechanical problems. There have been a number of issues with the MMI particularly the bluetooth phone module which has been replaced along with the cd player 3 times. All don under warranty but not cheap if you pay for it yourself. Mind you, thats all sorted now and everything is fine.
There is no Ipod connection as standard, it was an option, or can be retro fitted. Original Pirelli Pzero rosso tyres are horrid and wear fast, dunlops or vredstein are much better.
Running costs are pretty good, my car has a service roughly every 18000 miles, and shopping around the dealers can get a reasonable price. Front discs and pads lasted 40k miles, rears still going fine.
I have toured France and Switzerland in the car and always been relaxed and comfy even after a long day. The Le Mans looks good with its bigger 19 inch wheels and gets lots of positice comments. Its the first volume car I have had where people come up to me and say "nice car" etc. Its great on wet motorways, none of those heart stopping aquaplaning moments, and its not too bad in the snow, certainly better than a 2wd car.
Its faster in sport mode than using the tiptronic padles as throttle response is sharpened and the gear changes are more agressive. Mostly I use it in normal auto mode and its still quicketr than many other cars at overtaking and at the traffic light grand prix.
I am not sure what they are worth at the moment, although I am toying with selling mine as 90% of the time I am in it on my own, just need to persuade Mrs Blue that a 2 seater everyday car is fine for me. If I fail I will probably buy another, although I am tempted to keep this one for another few years if Mrs Blue cannot be persuaded.
Buy one, yu wont regret it
Cupramax said:
fatboy b said:
Same on all models with the 3.0TDi. Done apparently to avoid warranty claims on clutches beiing burnt out, but the same map is used on autos too.
What are you talking about??? The tip is an auto so it doesn't have a clutch...If your car had no option to even add ipod connectivity (like mine was) then you can connect a Dension Gateway 500 to the system, this allows you to control the ipod through the screen and MMI wheel, just like the radio and CD player, it uses optical leads, so the quality is fantastic, and if your car didn't come with bluetooth (like mine didn't, damn you 2005!) you can add the bluetooth module for gateway 500 too, fitted mine myself, cost just over £250 for the lot.
You say not fussed about manual or auto, I have a 2.7 S line manual, and wish in retrospect I'd got the auto. The car is nearly 2 tons, so it's never going to be a rocket ship off the line, nor does it pretend to be, so there's no point worrying about the traffic light grand prix. I hear about hesitation with the tip, trouble with the manual, is first gear is literally just enough to get the car moving forward, it's next to useless, and pulling away from stationary in 2nd seems a strain, so then you're immediately forced to change to second, once into 3rd the torque is great, but 4th, 5th and 6th, almost feel like the same gear, the cars so quiet, I often have to check the rev counter and check where the gearstick is!
As to ride quality, I've never had much else than firmly sprung, and low profiled tyred cars, so the ride on the S line five spokers is perfectly fine for me.
The A6 is in it's element tanking along the motorway, thindering down the autobahn to be sure, everywhere it's performance is adequate. Love the space, love shape, and the car has big car presence.
Get one with parking sensors!!! It's a big old girl!
As to ride quality, I've never had much else than firmly sprung, and low profiled tyred cars, so the ride on the S line five spokers is perfectly fine for me.
The A6 is in it's element tanking along the motorway, thindering down the autobahn to be sure, everywhere it's performance is adequate. Love the space, love shape, and the car has big car presence.
Get one with parking sensors!!! It's a big old girl!
Hey guys..
thanks so much for the advice.
I drove one, haggled a bit with dealers. but wasnt getting the deal I wanted.
Today, went to BCA Bedford for the VWFS sale, got a 2008/08 A6 3.0 TDI Quattro S-Line Le Mans Edition (Auto). Avus Silver. Came with Sat nav, parking, DAB, Xenons, Bluetooth, and a few other bits and bobs. Minty condition, 40k miles, and Bidding finished at 18600, bit of negotiation (was provisional) saw me pay 19200 plus buyers premium (700quid).
Cracking car - dead pleased
thanks again, dave.
thanks so much for the advice.
I drove one, haggled a bit with dealers. but wasnt getting the deal I wanted.
Today, went to BCA Bedford for the VWFS sale, got a 2008/08 A6 3.0 TDI Quattro S-Line Le Mans Edition (Auto). Avus Silver. Came with Sat nav, parking, DAB, Xenons, Bluetooth, and a few other bits and bobs. Minty condition, 40k miles, and Bidding finished at 18600, bit of negotiation (was provisional) saw me pay 19200 plus buyers premium (700quid).
Cracking car - dead pleased
thanks again, dave.
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