Is this a scam?
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A friend of mine is selling a large 4x4, has it advertised on autotrader and other places for £17k...
He has had a few calls from African Gentlemen, all from UK mobile No's, who have all said they want the car, even before seeing it.
They say they will transfer £500 to his bank immediately, then the rest when it clears in their account (wired from Africa).
One of these guys actually turned up to view the motor on Saturday, and when pressed, said that they were being containered out to Kenya, and that he would make £10k by buying my friends one and selling it on in Kenya...
Sounds like a scam, no??
He has had a few calls from African Gentlemen, all from UK mobile No's, who have all said they want the car, even before seeing it.
They say they will transfer £500 to his bank immediately, then the rest when it clears in their account (wired from Africa).
One of these guys actually turned up to view the motor on Saturday, and when pressed, said that they were being containered out to Kenya, and that he would make £10k by buying my friends one and selling it on in Kenya...
Sounds like a scam, no??
no1special said:
A friend of mine is selling a large 4x4, has it advertised on autotrader and other places for £17k...
He has had a few calls from African Gentlemen, all from UK mobile No's, who have all said they want the car, even before seeing it.
They say they will transfer £500 to his bank immediately, then the rest when it clears in their account (wired from Africa).
One of these guys actually turned up to view the motor on Saturday, and when pressed, said that they were being containered out to Kenya, and that he would make £10k by buying my friends one and selling it on in Kenya...
Sounds like a scam, no??
Sounds incredibly dodgy to me, obey the usual rules. If you have to ask...He has had a few calls from African Gentlemen, all from UK mobile No's, who have all said they want the car, even before seeing it.
They say they will transfer £500 to his bank immediately, then the rest when it clears in their account (wired from Africa).
One of these guys actually turned up to view the motor on Saturday, and when pressed, said that they were being containered out to Kenya, and that he would make £10k by buying my friends one and selling it on in Kenya...
Sounds like a scam, no??
If I were your friend, I'd say to the chap either pay full amount in cash, or cheque which must me cleared before the car is released, because IIRC some of these bank transfers can be reverse charged i.e. he'll put the money in then take it out when he gets the car.
Adenauer said:
Why do you actually have to ask if that's a scam? 
Because I thought these nigerian type scams were internet base, opposed to a guy actually turning up.Also, what I didnt say in the OP, they tried to haggle on the price and my friend said no.
They have just called back and offered slightly more - where is the benefit in this if it were a scam?
He just called back, and said the following...
He will transfer £500 NOW.
In a weeks time, he will transfer the balancke (some £16.5k), and when, and only when that has cleared in his bank, will he take the motor?!?!
Now, if the bank tells my friend the cash has cleared, can it then be reversed? And if so, wouldnt the bank be at fault for telling my friend the funds had cleared?
He will transfer £500 NOW.
In a weeks time, he will transfer the balancke (some £16.5k), and when, and only when that has cleared in his bank, will he take the motor?!?!
Now, if the bank tells my friend the cash has cleared, can it then be reversed? And if so, wouldnt the bank be at fault for telling my friend the funds had cleared?
no1special said:
He just called back, and said the following...
He will transfer £500 NOW.
In a weeks time, he will transfer the balancke (some £16.5k), and when, and only when that has cleared in his bank, will he take the motor?!?!
Now, if the bank tells my friend the cash has cleared, can it then be reversed? And if so, wouldnt the bank be at fault for telling my friend the funds had cleared?
Yes it can and will be reversed.He will transfer £500 NOW.
In a weeks time, he will transfer the balancke (some £16.5k), and when, and only when that has cleared in his bank, will he take the motor?!?!
Now, if the bank tells my friend the cash has cleared, can it then be reversed? And if so, wouldnt the bank be at fault for telling my friend the funds had cleared?
OnTheOverrun said:
no1special said:
He just called back, and said the following...
He will transfer £500 NOW.
In a weeks time, he will transfer the balancke (some £16.5k), and when, and only when that has cleared in his bank, will he take the motor?!?!
Now, if the bank tells my friend the cash has cleared, can it then be reversed? And if so, wouldnt the bank be at fault for telling my friend the funds had cleared?
Yes it can and will be reversed.He will transfer £500 NOW.
In a weeks time, he will transfer the balancke (some £16.5k), and when, and only when that has cleared in his bank, will he take the motor?!?!
Now, if the bank tells my friend the cash has cleared, can it then be reversed? And if so, wouldnt the bank be at fault for telling my friend the funds had cleared?
no1special said:
OnTheOverrun said:
no1special said:
He just called back, and said the following...
He will transfer £500 NOW.
In a weeks time, he will transfer the balancke (some £16.5k), and when, and only when that has cleared in his bank, will he take the motor?!?!
Now, if the bank tells my friend the cash has cleared, can it then be reversed? And if so, wouldnt the bank be at fault for telling my friend the funds had cleared?
Yes it can and will be reversed.He will transfer £500 NOW.
In a weeks time, he will transfer the balancke (some £16.5k), and when, and only when that has cleared in his bank, will he take the motor?!?!
Now, if the bank tells my friend the cash has cleared, can it then be reversed? And if so, wouldnt the bank be at fault for telling my friend the funds had cleared?
Mr E Driver said:
OnTheOverrun said:
Yes it can and will be reversed.
Are you saying that after the bank has told the vendor the money has cleared and in his bank account the sender can get it back? 
How is this done?
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