FRENCH POLICE - FRONT NUMBERPLATES - VX 220
FRENCH POLICE - FRONT NUMBERPLATES - VX 220
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l8lue

Original Poster:

35 posts

220 months

Wednesday 2nd June 2010
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Came back via Eurotunnel yesterday and met a group of VX220's back from LeMans track day. They were being done by LePlod for not having their front numberplates fixed by "rivets". I am told this followed an earlier incident when one of their group allegedly exceeded the 30KPH limit leaving a payage into the parking area. This is all news to me, but it cost them loads of expensive Euros and 2/3 hours holding at Eurotunnel.

Seems very unfair - be warned - have some dummy plate screw covers ready to glue on temporarily if necessary!

As you probably know, drilling a reflective plate from the face side ruins it, causing delamination. I would not want some local plod drilling holes in my car = no matter how big his gun is.

Hope you had a good trip home guys - we got through ok - this post is really for LeMans info

911perv

1,415 posts

211 months

Thursday 3rd June 2010
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If drilled carefully it shouldnt damage the plate, tape up the plate, sharp drill bit............simples

TonyHetherington

32,091 posts

280 months

Thursday 3rd June 2010
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Got done indirectly in the same way a few years ago; I had a plate on the front of my Exige, but velcroed it on so if it did hit a speed bump it came off rather than ripped screws from fibreglass.

Coming out of underground parking in Nice the plate got knocked off so I picked it up to put it back on when we got round the front of the hotel - only all my friends were ready to go, so I carried on driving.

€90 later I learnt that it's not allowed to not have a front plate. D'oh.

cliffie

172 posts

248 months

Thursday 3rd June 2010
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I was one of the VX220 drivers and the police were being really difficult with us. Initially they only wanted to speak to two of us so 7 out of 12 of the convoy headed off. Only then did Le Plod insist they came back. When I explained that I had no phone numbers to ring to tell them this he called ahead to the tunnel and had them stopped there.

Meantime the 5 left had to rivet their plates on, drilling holes with screwdrivers and using pliers to crush the pop rivets (don't ask how or why we had rivets with us, more luck than planning) and were eventually allowed to leave with passports returned but only thanks to the British Consulate.

Meantime, PC Officious has driven to the tunnel and proceeded to fine 6 out of the 7 that left 45 Euros for not having plates riveted on; the 7th was fined 45 Euros for leaving originally even though he was not told to wait and even though he did have his plates riveted on.

BEWARE

The Fecker copper at the Plod Station after the last toll booth on the way back to the Tunnel is an over bumptious and officious tt and will no doubt be looking out for the Le Mans returnees and nicking as many as he can.

snoopstah

391 posts

253 months

Thursday 3rd June 2010
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I would be livid if they had tried this to me.

Drilling the front fibreglass clam will inherently weaken it, even if you go back to sticking the plate on when you return to the UK. It could make the difference between it simply shrugging off a minor impact or needing fibreglass repairs.

As I understand it there is no legal requirement in the UK for the plates to be screwed/riveted on, are the French police really in their rights to insist on this being done on a UK car that's not being permanently imported?

Mr E

23,087 posts

289 months

Thursday 3rd June 2010
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snoopstah said:
As I understand it there is no legal requirement in the UK for the plates to be screwed/riveted on, are the French police really in their rights to insist on this being done on a UK car that's not being permanently imported?
As mine is fixed by velcro (for the reasons defined above) I'm also interested in this.

TB993tt

2,078 posts

271 months

Thursday 3rd June 2010
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why the fk is this on the Porsche forum our plates are attached with screws hehe

Slippydiff

16,459 posts

253 months

Thursday 3rd June 2010
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cliffie said:
I was one of the VX220 drivers and the police were being really difficult with us. Initially they only wanted to speak to two of us so 7 out of 12 of the convoy headed off. Only then did Le Plod insist they came back. When I explained that I had no phone numbers to ring to tell them this he called ahead to the tunnel and had them stopped there.

Meantime the 5 left had to rivet their plates on, drilling holes with screwdrivers and using pliers to crush the pop rivets (don't ask how or why we had rivets with us, more luck than planning) and were eventually allowed to leave with passports returned but only thanks to the British Consulate.

Meantime, PC Officious has driven to the tunnel and proceeded to fine 6 out of the 7 that left 45 Euros for not having plates riveted on; the 7th was fined 45 Euros for leaving originally even though he was not told to wait and even though he did have his plates riveted on.

BEWARE

The Fecker copper at the Plod Station after the last toll booth on the way back to the Tunnel is an over bumptious and officious tt and will no doubt be looking out for the Le Mans returnees and nicking as many as he can.
Cliffie I think you've hit the nail on the head with that statement, this has all the hallmarks of a shot across the bows from "our garlic munching surrender monkey neighbours" (not my words you understand) to all this years Le Mans attendees which basically says "you're not welcome, we don't want you treating our roads like a race circuit, beware and behave or we'll be doing all we can to make life very awkward for you"

TheDetailDoctor

9,073 posts

240 months

Thursday 3rd June 2010
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Does this apply to any plates help on with tape not screws?

red_slr

20,868 posts

219 months

Thursday 3rd June 2010
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And people think the BiB here are bad....

benny.c

3,796 posts

237 months

Thursday 3rd June 2010
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This sounds like a right load of old tosh to me. As I'm typing this I'm watching an old episode of Fifth Gear (yeah I know, glutton for punishment). Tom Ford is testing a French registered Pug of some kind with stuck on plates and no other fixings. Sounds like you lot just upset plod in some way.

Apart from that, I don't see how they could enforce a French law on UK cars that are not registered in France?


Edited by benny.c on Thursday 3rd June 10:33

Tino

1,948 posts

313 months

Thursday 3rd June 2010
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TB993tt said:
why the fk is this on the Porsche forum our plates are attached with screws hehe
Mine aren't!
Screws ruin the aerodynamicslaugh



Silent1

19,762 posts

265 months

Thursday 3rd June 2010
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I've done around 2000 miles in france with no front numberplate, so i suspect he was being a tt.

crazyfrog

6 posts

232 months

Thursday 3rd June 2010
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even one member with riveted plate got done for living the crime scene
they just simply want the money....bloody french plod
me i manage to run away lol

TheDetailDoctor

9,073 posts

240 months

Thursday 3rd June 2010
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Ah well, looks like it'll be straight through France with no stops when I go the the ring later in the year then.

Womaniser

310 posts

198 months

Thursday 3rd June 2010
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Why do people velcro plates on, that's gotta' be dangerous! I can imagine you're travelling at around 70MPH and the turbulence rips the plate off and over/under your car. Nothing nicer than having a number plate smash into your windscreen!

yikes

l8lue

Original Poster:

35 posts

220 months

Thursday 3rd June 2010
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I've got a 993RS with stuck on cut down, but legal size plastic plates. I logged on as usual through the Porsche section and didn't think about going elsewhere (is there a VX220 bit?)

The post was just to be a helpful warning and you can add stick on dummy screw heads to the other big list of "touring" parts you may need when going east of Dover!

edo

16,699 posts

295 months

Thursday 3rd June 2010
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The French really don't get the concept of WELCOMING tourism do they?

solidstatelogic

345 posts

198 months

Thursday 3rd June 2010
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Mine are fixed with velcro.... but in the recent Summer heat the sticky velcro has melted off so the front plate was hanging lop-sided. I have had to screw the front plate on now!

Silent1

19,762 posts

265 months

Thursday 3rd June 2010
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Womaniser said:
Why do people velcro plates on, that's gotta' be dangerous! I can imagine you're travelling at around 70MPH and the turbulence rips the plate off and over/under your car. Nothing nicer than having a number plate smash into your windscreen!

yikes
I've had velcro plates stay on past 140mph.