This years good all round drivers? (so far....)
This years good all round drivers? (so far....)
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Ralf Rockefeller

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1,597 posts

206 months

Friday 4th June 2010
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Hi Chaps,

Just a small post about which drivers have impressed in an all round capacity this year, quali, team spirit, race pace, etc.

I think for me, the stand out driver so far is Jenson. Up against LH he is doing well, he is pushing the team, doing decent enough in quali and driving very well in the race.

Mr Webber and Kovi deserve a shout as well.

I think the worst has been Alonso (seriously), too many mistakes, and his team spirit seem to have eluded him, again.

Hopefully this does not spark off any nasty debates!

RR


Mazda Baiter

37,069 posts

217 months

Friday 4th June 2010
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Jenson Button
Robert Kubica
Heikki Kovalainen
Jaime Alguesari
Karun Chandhock


These drivers have constantly impressed me so far this year.

Jenson for being consistently on it.

Robert for consistently outperforming the Renault.

Heikki for not whinging like a bh (Trulli) when the Lotus isn't that good and for constantly smiling.

Jaime has impressed. Because he seems to have stepped up his game far higher than Buemi, which wasn't the case last year.

Karun has regularly beaten Bruno this year despite not being hyped up at all like Bruno has. He has got on with the job and has been possibly the nicest bloke in the paddock this year.

rednotdead

1,255 posts

255 months

Friday 4th June 2010
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Heikki seems a different person this year, so upbeat and gung-ho. I wonder if he sees his time at Lotus as a real opportunity to create and mould a team around him, on a smaller scale to Schumacher/Ferrari. He seems to be enjoying his racing and I bet the knowledge he's bringing from McLaren is invaluable to the team......

I agree about Kubica too - he's doing a great job.

Can't work out what is going on with Rosberg though, at the start of the season I thought this was going to be his year in terms of a win or two but he's going backwards now.......

Ralf Rockefeller

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1,597 posts

206 months

Friday 4th June 2010
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Forgot about Kubica- agreed although he would score more highly by putting pen to paper and comiting to the team (although he ready to sign on for next according to management).


Ranger 6

7,663 posts

278 months

Friday 4th June 2010
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Kimi is doing very well, only a few events in and Portugal he's in the top 10 without crashing.

Other than him Sebastien Ogier has come on in leaps and bounds and Gwyndaf is showing his skill with two good wins.


PabloTeK

1,073 posts

204 months

Friday 4th June 2010
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Petrov.

In his first 7 races he's got 6 points and a fastest lap to his name! He's much better than Kobacrashi!

Muzzer

3,814 posts

250 months

Friday 4th June 2010
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I'll second Sebastien Ogier.

To win in the junior team, after less than 20 WRC events, beating the 6 time world champion on merit deserves credit.

It's certainly more than Dani Sordo has ever done.

Let's not forget that with maybe a bit more fortune he could have won the event previously aswell.

Mazda Baiter

37,069 posts

217 months

Friday 4th June 2010
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I can't believe I forgot Webber off that list.

He has stepped up his game massively. Australia set him back, but other than that he has been superb.

Get Karter

1,950 posts

230 months

Friday 4th June 2010
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If I could only pick one, it'd be Robert Kubica.

Forbes82

812 posts

208 months

Friday 4th June 2010
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Heikki seems like a great bloke to have for a new team, consistent, quick, always happy, great attitude. I hope he sticks with lotus for a few years and progresses up the grid, perhaps even get thier first podium?

Kubica, Webber and Button have all had good starts to the season.

Vettel and Alonso have performed below my expectations so far.

Jungles

3,587 posts

250 months

Friday 4th June 2010
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Overall: Robert Kubica.

Runner-up: Mark Webber.

Honorable mentions: Jaime Alguersuari (for most improved) and Heikki Kovalainen (best underdog performance).

harry010

4,423 posts

216 months

Friday 4th June 2010
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Mazda Baiter said:
Jenson Button
Robert Kubica
Heikki Kovalainen
Jaime Alguesari
Karun Chandhock

These drivers have constantly impressed me so far this year.

Jenson for being consistently on it.

Robert for consistently outperforming the Renault.

Heikki for not whinging like a bh (Trulli) when the Lotus isn't that good
and for constantly smiling.

Jaime has impressed. Because he seems to have stepped up his game far higher than Buemi, which wasn't the case last year.

Karun has regularly beaten Bruno this year despite not being hyped up at all like Bruno has. He has got on with the job and has been possibly the nicest bloke in the paddock this year.
I'd agree with that list, adding Webber, but I feel Bruno has done just as well as Karun so far. Karun has done better in races but with the reliability problems of the car it's pretty much pot luck atthe moment, and I believe it's 5-2 to Bruno in qualifying. Also, it is not Bruno's fault that he has been hyped up to the heavens... and I think he's handled the Senna nonsense with grace, maturity and good humour- it can't be nice to finally get to the grid and no-one wants to talk about you.

Scuffers

20,887 posts

303 months

Friday 4th June 2010
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PabloTeK said:
Petrov.

In his first 7 races he's got 6 points and a fastest lap to his name! He's much better than Kobacrashi!
Another vote for Petrol.

ajprice

33,299 posts

225 months

Friday 4th June 2010
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Good: Webber, Button, Kovalainen, Petrov, Schumacher in the updated car, Chandhok, Kubica, Alguersuari

Average: Massa, Hamilton, Rosberg

Bad: Alonso, Kobayashi, Liuzzi

Yes, I would rate Hamilton like that. I didn't think Hamilton would walk all over Button as the thinking was pre season, but I didn't think Button would be ahead in points, led the championship before Webber took the lead and got 2 race wins in at this stage.

snorkel sucker

2,717 posts

232 months

Friday 4th June 2010
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Kubica and Webber are doing a great job so far. Webber for the obvious reasons but Kubica for doing a sterling job in, lets face it, a car that at the beginning of the season was looking unlikely to reach the grid, nevermind be competitive. Petrov is starting to improve and I think he will bloosom into a darn good F1 driver before too much longer

Button I think has done a great job in the face of all the critics saying he was a flash in the pan with his WDC last year - he has really taken it to Lewis and last week's overtaking scrap shows how awesome they both are.

Biggest dissapointments so far go to Schumacher and Vettel. Schumi just hasnt done what we were all hoping he would and seems to have mellowed somewhat (cheeky alonso overtake notwithstanding!) and for me, Vettel just hasnt impressed as much as Webber with his consistency, drive and maturity. He has a long way to go yet I think

I would also echo the comments about Kovi - ive warmed a lot to him this year and I do agree that he sees Lotus as a team that can really go places, with him at the helm. I loved his two spins at Monaco and his beaming smile after when talking about them!

If I had to pick one driver so far this season, id go for Button. He has integrated with Mclaren well - not an easy feat. He has won already, and he is challenging for the lead in the drivers standings. As current WDC you can ask no more

Oh and one last thing - Button hasnt yet adorned a set of earrings and the manner in which he goes about his business with women is soooooooo cooler than his teammate! Lewis' missus could be the downfall of his career IMO....

matt frost

783 posts

280 months

Friday 4th June 2010
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Button has done pretty well so far, not sure how Lewis has not been mentioned yet, even though Button has by almost everyone posting, despite the fact that Lewis has outdriven Button every weekend so far.

Wanta996Gotta

5,622 posts

236 months

Friday 4th June 2010
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snorkel sucker said:
Kubica and Webber are doing a great job so far. Webber for the obvious reasons but Kubica for doing a sterling job in, lets face it, a car that at the beginning of the season was looking unlikely to reach the grid, nevermind be competitive. Petrov is starting to improve and I think he will bloosom into a darn good F1 driver before too much longer

Button I think has done a great job in the face of all the critics saying he was a flash in the pan with his WDC last year - he has really taken it to Lewis and last week's overtaking scrap shows how awesome they both are.

Biggest dissapointments so far go to Schumacher and Vettel. Schumi just hasnt done what we were all hoping he would and seems to have mellowed somewhat (cheeky alonso overtake notwithstanding!) and for me, Vettel just hasnt impressed as much as Webber with his consistency, drive and maturity. He has a long way to go yet I think

I would also echo the comments about Kovi - ive warmed a lot to him this year and I do agree that he sees Lotus as a team that can really go places, with him at the helm. I loved his two spins at Monaco and his beaming smile after when talking about them!

If I had to pick one driver so far this season, id go for Button. He has integrated with Mclaren well - not an easy feat. He has won already, and he is challenging for the lead in the drivers standings. As current WDC you can ask no more

Oh and one last thing - Button hasnt yet adorned a set of earrings and the manner in which he goes about his business with women is soooooooo cooler than his teammate! Lewis' missus could be the downfall of his career IMO....
You were doing ok until you posted this nonsense. How could Nicole be the downfall to Lewis's career exactly? Never did him any harm when he won his title in 2008. Enlighten us please.

And while your at it, Buttons now EX-Girlfriend had been to every race this season so what makes his approach so much cooler as you put it?





Edited by Wanta996Gotta on Friday 4th June 13:19

stevesingo

5,040 posts

251 months

Friday 4th June 2010
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matt frost said:
Lewis has outdriven Button every weekend so far.
Fanboi Alert wink

If that were the case, LH would be ahead in the WDC. Storming though the field, passing cars left, right and centre is exiting stuff, but he shouldn't have been at the back in the first place. Although the team made some bad calls, to think that LH as a driver couldn't have influenced those decisions would be nieve. That is why my money is on JB for WDC 2010.


Scuffers

20,887 posts

303 months

Friday 4th June 2010
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stevesingo said:
matt frost said:
Lewis has outdriven Button every weekend so far.
Fanboi Alert wink

If that were the case, LH would be ahead in the WDC. Storming though the field, passing cars left, right and centre is exiting stuff, but he shouldn't have been at the back in the first place. Although the team made some bad calls, to think that LH as a driver couldn't have influenced those decisions would be nieve. That is why my money is on JB for WDC 2010.
to be fair, Lewis has out-driven Jenson, however, arguably Jenson has made the better pit-calls.

Both have suffered from mechanical issues (Lewis's wheel, Jenson's intake cover, etc), but ignoring the herd results, in outright driving terms, I personally think it's safe to say that Lewis has out-driven Jenson so far....

williamp

20,387 posts

302 months

Friday 4th June 2010
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Dario Franchiti.