Panoramic Sunroofs...
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Puddenchucker

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5,938 posts

248 months

Friday 4th June 2010
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...what's the point?

Apart from doing a good job of turning the inside of your car into a greenhouse?

I can understand the thinking behind opening sunroofs that allow extra ventilation without as much buffeting as an open window. But these things just make no sense to me.




Dog Star

17,626 posts

198 months

Friday 4th June 2010
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I've got to say that (IMO of course) they generally do look quite trick.
Reason enough! wink

Superhoop

4,914 posts

223 months

Friday 4th June 2010
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I completely agree with the OP - In bright sunshine, you'd pull the sunvisors down to stop it blinding you... And why would you want to look at a miserable rainy sky in the winter?

And the thought of getting a stone chip, or a crack in the glass yikes

LuS1fer

43,539 posts

275 months

Friday 4th June 2010
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It depends on the car. I had a Corvette C4 and the perspex roof made every day seem like an open-top sportscar day. Indeed, the solid version made the interior quite oppressive. Not keen on the idea in some cars though, I'd far rather have an opening sunroof.

marcusRR

259 posts

260 months

Friday 4th June 2010
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Superhoop said:
And the thought of getting a stone chip, or a crack in the glass yikes
Cant see why it would be yikes, your windscreen excess is the same if its normal size screen or one of these extended ones!

cronk-flakes

3,480 posts

283 months

Friday 4th June 2010
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Superhoop said:
In bright sunshine, you'd pull the sunvisors down to stop it blinding you...
O/T, but where would the visors be? I assume they'd tuck away to the side or something?

Superhoop

4,914 posts

223 months

Friday 4th June 2010
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On the Citroen with a panoramic roof, they were attached to a kind of moveable extension to to the headlining

Louisa911

649 posts

220 months

Friday 4th June 2010
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I took one of the new peugeot models out last winter which had one of these. Much more fun than you'd expect it to be on the first few drives, but I imagine the novelty would wear off after a while. It was snowing and dark the first time we took it out, and I have to say it was a great experience for a passenger. But probably in the long run, not worth the extra cash and possibility of large replacement payouts if it cracked etc.

Conor D

2,124 posts

205 months

Friday 4th June 2010
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I'd rather see more of this style of windscreen.. Instead of the pointless panoramic thing..

Caruso

7,558 posts

286 months

Friday 4th June 2010
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I see these and think that it will be one of those pointless features that will be looked back upon fondly in 10 or 20 years.

TheRoadWarrior

1,242 posts

208 months

Friday 4th June 2010
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Whats the point? Same as auto lights/wipers, stereos that get louder with speed, lane departure warnings etc etc etc..... there is no point, other than to convince joe public that car b is 'better' than car a.

kambites

71,564 posts

251 months

Friday 4th June 2010
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TheRoadWarrior said:
Whats the point? Same as auto lights/wipers, stereos that get louder with speed, lane departure warnings etc etc etc..... there is no point, other than to convince joe public that car b is 'better' than car a.
Surely that's the entire purpose of any feature on any car? To make the car sell in larger numbers and/or for more money.

Funky Town

3,920 posts

210 months

Friday 4th June 2010
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personally i quite like them, don't see it as a pointless feature, something like power fold wing mirrors is surely more pointless?

alot of light in a car makes it feel more spacious, and whats wrong with sunglasses when its bright? sun visours don't block out the sun when its low in the sky so surely everyone keeps sunglasses in the car anyway?

dan19evans

4,954 posts

197 months

Friday 4th June 2010
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i dont see the point of them either. all u can see through the roof is sky, and 99% of the time the skys cloudy !

Agrilla

834 posts

213 months

Friday 4th June 2010
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What's the insurance view on these? I'm fairly sure at one time Morethan stopped covering them (but I could be wrong).

Sounds like it could be a bit of a pain in the arse, but I do still like the look of them.

hidetheelephants

36,080 posts

223 months

Friday 4th June 2010
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Perhaps more importantly, it's compromising the structural strength and rigidity of the shell. More stiffening would be required, and glass weighs more than steel panelling = more mass to lug around, poorer performance and worse fuel economy. Other than that it's a spiffing idea.rolleyes

LuS1fer

43,539 posts

275 months

Saturday 5th June 2010
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hidetheelephants said:
Perhaps more importantly, it's compromising the structural strength and rigidity of the shell. More stiffening would be required, and glass weighs more than steel panelling = more mass to lug around, poorer performance and worse fuel economy. Other than that it's a spiffing idea.rolleyes
Apparently not. The one on the Mustang is no heavier and I think may even be more structurally rigid than the steel one.
One thing people are msiing is that modern cars are increasingly claustrophobic with smaller and smaller windows so brightening an interior can be a very good thing.

The question that begs is if they can put glass in the roof, why can't they put more in the sides and rear?



Ford also points out that "scientific studies show that increased exposure to sunshine or bright light is therapeutic because it regulates the body's synthesis of melatonin, a mood-regulating hormone that modulates the circadian cycle of sleep and wakefulness"

Also:

The 2010 Ford Glass Roof Mustang offers consumers convertible-like driving without the need for sunscreen, because its factory-installed panoramic glass roof filters 90 percent of the sun’s heat-generating infrared (IR) rays and 96 percent of burn-causing ultraviolet (UV) rays.


The UV-filtering capability of the new Mustang’s fixed glass roof is comparable to sunscreen lotion with a sun protection factor (SPF) of approximately 50, which exceeds the dermatologist-recommended sunscreen strength of at least SPF-15.

The glass roof’s ability to filter IR rays reduces heat load in the cabin so that occupants remain comfortable while enjoying the sun. The reflective glass also reduces energy used by the vehicle’s air conditioner system while protecting the interior fabric from fading and deteriorating.

And finally:

As for its structural design, the roof will be made of safety glass, designed to shatter without sharp or jagged edges. The glass roof Mustang will be built like a coupe to help maintain the vehicle’s structural characteristics. A layer of vinyl on the glass is said to reduce noise and vibrations while on the road.

Safety
Ford reports that the glass roof has been tested to meet the strictest safety and consumer satisfaction requirements. In a press release, the company reported, “During the development phase, production-level prototypes ran through a rigorous prove-out, including various water, air leakage, durability, squeak and rattle and vehicle dynamics tests.”

Edited by LuS1fer on Saturday 5th June 08:15

davidjpowell

18,701 posts

214 months

Saturday 5th June 2010
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Our Merc has a Panoramic Roof. It has been renamed the Panorattle, something that they are known for.

It does make the inside lighter, provided that I can put up with the rattle.

bazking69

8,620 posts

220 months

Saturday 5th June 2010
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Panoramic windscreens you mean.

It's a novel concept. It makes the cabin feel much lighter and open, but yes, it has its flaws.

David87

7,032 posts

242 months

Saturday 5th June 2010
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Never been in a car with one, but I quite like the idea of them, to be honest. Would be lovely on a clear night.