Sued for copyright infringement.
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Letter from ACS Law this morning, £295 to settle out of court for downloading a music file over bittorrent.
Any ideas as to legality, quick Google suggests such letters have little validity in law?
It would appear there has been some sort of court case involving Sky and a few other ISPs.
Any ideas as to legality, quick Google suggests such letters have little validity in law?
It would appear there has been some sort of court case involving Sky and a few other ISPs.
ALittleEXcited said:
Letter from ACS Law this morning, £295 to settle out of court for downloading a music file over bittorrent.
Any ideas as to legality, quick Google suggests such letters have little validity in law?
It would appear there has been some sort of court case involving Sky and a few other ISPs.
I received exactly the same letter this morning! Out of interest is your broadband provider Sky?Any ideas as to legality, quick Google suggests such letters have little validity in law?
It would appear there has been some sort of court case involving Sky and a few other ISPs.
Just trying to be the voice of reason here 
You stole things and now the authorities are trying to correct your behaviour. I'm sure you could afford 79p per track. Why is it that people think this isn't theft but would complain bitterly if someone stole something from them.
ETA a friend of mine has just discovered that their iTunes account has been hacked and hundreds of tracks have been purchased by someone else leaving her hundreds of pounds out of pocket. I see similarity here. Theft is theft.

You stole things and now the authorities are trying to correct your behaviour. I'm sure you could afford 79p per track. Why is it that people think this isn't theft but would complain bitterly if someone stole something from them.
ETA a friend of mine has just discovered that their iTunes account has been hacked and hundreds of tracks have been purchased by someone else leaving her hundreds of pounds out of pocket. I see similarity here. Theft is theft.
Edited by bobfather on Sunday 6th June 10:48
bobfather said:
Just trying to be the voice of reason here 
You stole things and now the authorities are trying to correct your behaviour. I'm sure you could afford 79p per track. Why is it that people think this isn't theft but would complain bitterly if someone stole something from them.
Ah, 'The Authorities'. A bunch of solicitors being investigated for sending out speculative invoices.
You stole things and now the authorities are trying to correct your behaviour. I'm sure you could afford 79p per track. Why is it that people think this isn't theft but would complain bitterly if someone stole something from them.
Would you pay up?
bobfather said:
Just trying to be the voice of reason here 
You stole things and now the authorities are trying to correct your behaviour. I'm sure you could afford 79p per track. Why is it that people think this isn't theft but would complain bitterly if someone stole something from them.
ETA a friend of mine has just discovered that their iTunes account has been hacked and hundreds of tracks have been purchased by someone else leaving her hundreds of pounds out of pocket. I see similarity here. Theft is theft.
aCS law are not the authorities
You stole things and now the authorities are trying to correct your behaviour. I'm sure you could afford 79p per track. Why is it that people think this isn't theft but would complain bitterly if someone stole something from them.
ETA a friend of mine has just discovered that their iTunes account has been hacked and hundreds of tracks have been purchased by someone else leaving her hundreds of pounds out of pocket. I see similarity here. Theft is theft.
Edited by bobfather on Sunday 6th June 10:48
bobfather said:
ETA a friend of mine has just discovered that their iTunes account has been hacked and hundreds of tracks have been purchased by someone else leaving her hundreds of pounds out of pocket. I see similarity here. Theft is theft.
There's no similarity there unless you're looking at it in the vaguest most wishy-washy sense possible.Edited by bobfather on Sunday 6th June 10:48
It would be similar to P2P if someone had copied her iTunes library, leaving hers intact and not buying any more tracks or depriving her financially.
Edited by bonsai on Sunday 6th June 10:55
Rusty Arches said:
bobfather said:
Just trying to be the voice of reason here 
You stole things
No he didn't.
You stole things
Downloading is not theft.
bobfather said:
Rusty Arches said:
bobfather said:
Just trying to be the voice of reason here 
You stole things
No he didn't.
You stole things
Downloading is not theft.
Amused2death said:
Surely it is the person uploading the file that has broken the copyright.
They are the ones who do not have the neccessary permissions to distribute it.
Ergo...Downloading it is not a crime...uploading it is.
(Or that's how I see it...though I could have got it all horribly wrong
)
However using a bittorrent means you upload the same track you're downloadingThey are the ones who do not have the neccessary permissions to distribute it.
Ergo...Downloading it is not a crime...uploading it is.
(Or that's how I see it...though I could have got it all horribly wrong
)RizzoTheRat said:
Amused2death said:
Surely it is the person uploading the file that has broken the copyright.
They are the ones who do not have the neccessary permissions to distribute it.
Ergo...Downloading it is not a crime...uploading it is.
(Or that's how I see it...though I could have got it all horribly wrong
)
However using a bittorrent means you upload the same track you're downloadingThey are the ones who do not have the neccessary permissions to distribute it.
Ergo...Downloading it is not a crime...uploading it is.
(Or that's how I see it...though I could have got it all horribly wrong
)
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