Economical Driving.
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croyde

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26,442 posts

260 months

Monday 7th June 2010
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Yeah! I know, a dirty word for a PHer but I tried it this weekend just gone.

I run a 12 year old E36 BMW 323i which having an old school engine is great but does around 17 mpg in town and 25 on a run.

I had to go to work in Cardiff last weekend and totting up the cost of fuel, I was looking at a tank at least, to get there and back from London, around £70.

I am normally in the middle and outer lanes on the motorway generally getting a good pace down but also getting held up a lot by lane hoggers.

So this time coming back from Cardiff and being restricted to 50 mph all the way to the border, I decided to stay at around 60 to 65 for the rest of the journey.

What a difference, it was a nice day so sounds on and window open and just cruisin' and staying mainly in lane 1. Very relaxing and to be honest the 150 mile trip took maybe 25 mins longer.

The bonus is that the fuel gauge is only on the halfway mark and 307 miles done. Unbelievable! as usually I am lucky to get 300 miles from a whole tank on a run and as little as 200 in town.

OK it was a Sunday so not many lorries and at that speed during the week you would be stuck amongst them so not so nice.

Reminded me of driving in the States back in the early 90s when there was a 55 mph speed limit.

Gad-Westy

16,612 posts

243 months

Monday 7th June 2010
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I'm amazed how low you say your normal MPG figures are. My old E36 328 would typically do around 22 around town, 30-35 at motorway speeds and average 28 mpg overall. I was always quite pleased with it.

It is amazing what a bit of slow and steady driiving can do for your figures though. When I had the 328 I once had to make a 40 mile journey up the A1 with a mate's wedding cake in the boot. Decided to make it a bit of an economy run as I was going to have to take it steady anyway. Averaged 45 mpg, beat that!

bazking69

8,620 posts

220 months

Monday 7th June 2010
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The difference between cruising in the slow lane at 55-60 compared to 70 plus is surprisingly massive.

Ry_B

2,256 posts

231 months

Monday 7th June 2010
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bazking69 said:
The difference between cruising in the slow lane at 55-60 compared to 70 plus is surprisingly massive.
Slow lane? What is this?

Do you mean the driving lane? (lane 2 and 3 aer overtake lanes?)

GSP

1,965 posts

234 months

Monday 7th June 2010
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I have a ford 1.6TDCI fiesta zetec S

If I put my foot down I only get 360 miles to a tank.

If I really nurse the car though and do 55mph behind a truck you can just about squeeze 580 out of the tank...

The tank which costs £40 to fill at £1.18 a litre.

Equates to about 77mpg.

Its pretty slow but its fun to drive on the twistys.

I always wonder when I see big old cars hammering by on the motorway are getting MPG wise... 17mpg redface ouch.


croyde

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26,442 posts

260 months

Monday 7th June 2010
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One of the questions on the highway code that I was asked by the examiner nearly 30 years ago was "What is the outside lane on the motorway for?"

My answer "High speed cruising".

He got cross but I still passed.

laugh

I do point and squirt the car in town so am probably punished with the 17 mpg. I just like the sound of the in-line six.

croyde

Original Poster:

26,442 posts

260 months

Monday 7th June 2010
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GSP said:
I have a ford 1.6TDCI fiesta zetec S

If I put my foot down I only get 360 miles to a tank.

If I really nurse the car though and do 55mph behind a truck you can just about squeeze 580 out of the tank...

The tank which costs £40 to fill at £1.18 a litre.

Equates to about 77mpg.

Its pretty slow but its fun to drive on the twistys.

I always wonder when I see big old cars hammering by on the motorway are getting MPG wise... 17mpg redface ouch.
77 mpg that's amazing, especially as my Triumph Street Triple only does about 32 mpg but I do like revving it. That is terrible mileage for what is basically a one person mode of transport tho'.

Laurel Green

31,165 posts

262 months

Monday 7th June 2010
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croyde said:
window open
Would have seen frugality increase with window closed. smile

GSP

1,965 posts

234 months

Monday 7th June 2010
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croyde said:
GSP said:
I have a ford 1.6TDCI fiesta zetec S

If I put my foot down I only get 360 miles to a tank.

If I really nurse the car though and do 55mph behind a truck you can just about squeeze 580 out of the tank...

The tank which costs £40 to fill at £1.18 a litre.

Equates to about 77mpg.

Its pretty slow but its fun to drive on the twistys.

I always wonder when I see big old cars hammering by on the motorway are getting MPG wise... 17mpg redface ouch.
77 mpg that's amazing, especially as my Triumph Street Triple only does about 32 mpg but I do like revving it. That is terrible mileage for what is basically a one person mode of transport tho'.
My 600RR is horrendous when giving it a hard time. Easily getting only 85 miles to a tank. Which some days can cost over £20 to fill up recently lol.

It can get nearly 180 if you never go over 5krpm lol

croyde

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26,442 posts

260 months

Monday 7th June 2010
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Laurel Green said:
croyde said:
window open
Would have seen frugality increase with window closed. smile
True laugh but I did turn the AC off.

Laurel Green

31,165 posts

262 months

Monday 7th June 2010
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croyde said:
True laugh but I did turn the AC off.
That's all right then! biggrin A good compromise and, can't let all that gubbins get in the way of enjoyment of hoon. thumbup

CraigyMc

18,369 posts

266 months

Monday 7th June 2010
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croyde said:
blah blah mpg blah blah
Coincidentally, I broke my personal record for fuel economy in my TT yesterday.
58mpg over a 17 mile journey.

Previous record was 56.3mpg.

Any anyone with a 2.0TFSI TT beat that? (bear in mind, my car has the older 2.0 engine).

C


zcacogp

11,239 posts

274 months

Monday 7th June 2010
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944 S2. 3.0, 16v, 4-pot.

Fuel economy is not significantly improved by travelling slower (late last year I drove from home to Derby - 120ish miles - at 55-60mph, and then back to Cheltenham at a lot more than that, as an experiment. The lower speed made about 1.5mpg difference.)

Interestingly it is significantly better at speeds above about 90 in fifth. The engine comes on cam about then, and breathes noticably better (much more acceleration available), so I assume it's related to that.


Oli.

R360

4,507 posts

236 months

Monday 7th June 2010
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Those fuel figures are very low, i have a 1998 E36 323 coupe manual that i use occasionally on the weekend. Normally i drive it hard along nice country routes and still manage to average around 23-25. I found i was getting quite low fuel figures and found the reason for this was the cat was blocked, once i got it changed i got far better figures.
Get your cat checked...

Dominicc01

530 posts

197 months

Monday 7th June 2010
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GSP said:
I always wonder when I see big old cars hammering by on the motorway are getting MPG wise... 17mpg redface ouch.
My 95 XJ6 (taking from the trip computer) does about 32mpg on the motorway at seventy. At 110 on the motorway if I were to take it to the German autobahn, it would happily be doing in the 20's mpg. Above 135 (indicated speed), the trip computer shows consumption down to single figures.

R360

4,507 posts

236 months

Monday 7th June 2010
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GSP said:
I always wonder when I see big old cars hammering by on the motorway are getting MPG wise... 17mpg redface ouch.
My LS430 would give me shocking figures when i hammered it, which was hard not to with a lovely silky smooth 4.4 V8. When i got it it was fun to see the trip showing single figures, however after a while it became quite scary.
Still one of the most comfortable and highly specced cars i have ever owned.

croyde

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26,442 posts

260 months

Monday 7th June 2010
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R360 said:
Those fuel figures are very low, i have a 1998 E36 323 coupe manual that i use occasionally on the weekend. Normally i drive it hard along nice country routes and still manage to average around 23-25. I found i was getting quite low fuel figures and found the reason for this was the cat was blocked, once i got it changed i got far better figures.
Get your cat checked...
That is what I do get for the same sort of driving but the 17 is in London traffic.

Maxym

3,049 posts

266 months

Monday 7th June 2010
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Gad-Westy said:
I'm amazed how low you say your normal MPG figures are. My old E36 328 would typically do around 22 around town, 30-35 at motorway speeds and average 28 mpg overall. I was always quite pleased with it.

It is amazing what a bit of slow and steady driiving can do for your figures though. When I had the 328 I once had to make a 40 mile journey up the A1 with a mate's wedding cake in the boot. Decided to make it a bit of an economy run as I was going to have to take it steady anyway. Averaged 45 mpg, beat that!
I had an E36 323i and on a 75 mph indicated cruise it would do about 35 mpg. Once on a trip from Cheltenham to Edinburgh (largely M5/M6/M74) I got close to 40 - there was a nice following wind.

But unless it's a breathless, gutless buzzbox, hanging around at anything under 70 is just so goddam boring. Ad the beter cars tend to get even better the faster you go.

Jasandjules

72,622 posts

259 months

Monday 7th June 2010
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bazking69 said:
The difference between cruising in the slow lane at 55-60 compared to 70 plus is surprisingly massive.
1. There is no slow lane.
2. Do you mean in terms of time or fuel economy?

hairykrishna

14,526 posts

233 months

Monday 7th June 2010
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Dominicc01 said:
GSP said:
I always wonder when I see big old cars hammering by on the motorway are getting MPG wise... 17mpg redface ouch.
My 95 XJ6 (taking from the trip computer) does about 32mpg on the motorway at seventy. At 110 on the motorway if I were to take it to the German autobahn, it would happily be doing in the 20's mpg. Above 135 (indicated speed), the trip computer shows consumption down to single figures.
When we crossed Europe in our big old 500SEL we got 22mpg at a steady 100mph. Over 800 miles we averaged 20mpg and 85mph (including stops...)

It was shockingly bad in traffic and around town though. Easily single figures.