Who do I owe money to?
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I'm Rupert. I'm a dog. Everybody tells me that we owe billions of pounds. Everybody tells me that the interes on all this money we've borrowed alone is billions of pounds. Can someone explain to me:
Who did we borrow the money from?
Who do we have to pay interest to?
sorry, I meant money
Who did we borrow the money from?
Who do we have to pay interest to?
sorry, I meant money
Edited by rupert the dog on Tuesday 8th June 21:23
rupert the dog said:
I'm Rupert. I'm a dog. Everybody tells me that we owe billions of pounds. Everybody tells me that the interes on all this money we've borrowed alone is billions of pounds. Can someone explain to me:
Who did we borrow the money from?
Who do we have to pay interest to?
Investors from this country and around the world. Pension funds, investment trusts, banks, other governments etc etc. Who did we borrow the money from?
Who do we have to pay interest to?
In short anyone who has bought gilts (government IOUs)
your biggest debt is to public sector retirees, over a trillion quid in unfunded index linked pensions, but dont worry your kids will pay for that not you.
the next biggest is 934bn in gilts

lastly you owe private companies about 140bn in PFI agreements
enjoy!
the next biggest is 934bn in gilts

lastly you owe private companies about 140bn in PFI agreements
enjoy!

Edited by fbrs on Wednesday 9th June 02:01
turbotongue said:
Somewhatfoolish said:
What you should be doing is campaigning for a massive pro-smoking campaign.
Legalise coke and weed. That should bring in a few billion.And create a nation of paranoid stoners

Somewhatfoolish said:
turbotongue said:
Somewhatfoolish said:
What you should be doing is campaigning for a massive pro-smoking campaign.
Legalise coke and weed. That should bring in a few billion.And create a nation of paranoid stoners

Rocksteadyeddie said:
Somewhatfoolish said:
turbotongue said:
Somewhatfoolish said:
What you should be doing is campaigning for a massive pro-smoking campaign.
Legalise coke and weed. That should bring in a few billion.And create a nation of paranoid stoners


turbotongue said:
Somewhatfoolish said:
What you should be doing is campaigning for a massive pro-smoking campaign.
Legalise coke and weed. That should bring in a few billion.And create a nation of paranoid stoners
james_tigerwoods said:
And what if we can't pay it back?
Can a country become bankrupt? (Zimbabwe aside, that is)
This is what confuses me - being a simple carpet cleaner and all...Can a country become bankrupt? (Zimbabwe aside, that is)
So we all (other countries) appear to be all in massive debt, and we are all trading debt. So where is the money?

TheCarpetCleaner said:
james_tigerwoods said:
And what if we can't pay it back?
Can a country become bankrupt? (Zimbabwe aside, that is)
This is what confuses me - being a simple carpet cleaner and all...Can a country become bankrupt? (Zimbabwe aside, that is)
So we all (other countries) appear to be all in massive debt, and we are all trading debt. So where is the money?

Pension Funds have plenty of money.
Insurance companies ditto.
It is mainly (although not only) Western governments that are running large deficits.
Rocksteadyeddie said:
Not all countries are in debt.
vast majority arehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_...
but you're right ultimately the debt is all owned by us, through savings, insurance and pensions
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