Features that would stop you buying a new car.
Discussion
J500ANT said:
and the BMW 3series has the same sort of indicators as a Vectra! (ignoring comments about BMW drivers not using indicators)
I must say I've just got a BM and I don't get what all the fuss is about with the 'touch' indicators. It took me about 30 seconds to acquaint myself with it and don't find it any better or worse than normal cam return ones.In terms of things that put me off though... Mmmmm probably EPAS. EHPAS can be alright though.
LuS1fer said:
Call me a Luddite but I would not buy a new car with any of the following as I don't need them:
Automatic wipers
Automatic lights
LED sidelights.
Vauxhall-style indicators.
Hmm, I'm puzzled about the indicators. Automatic wipers
Automatic lights
LED sidelights.
Vauxhall-style indicators.
I have automatic wipers, and yes, they don't always work as intended but mostly are very good.
Automatic lights and LEDs though aren't really features to be fuzzy about.
A combination of most of the above really:
Vauxhall style indicators- hated them in the Astra hire car we had
Rain sensing wipers- have them on the Golf; unnecessary and I find they don't work so well, but wouldn't stop me buying one
Auto box only puts me off
French badge- probably!
Instrument cluster that is not directly in front of the driver
I like autolights though- useful here in Swizerland where there are so many tunnels.
Vauxhall style indicators- hated them in the Astra hire car we had
Rain sensing wipers- have them on the Golf; unnecessary and I find they don't work so well, but wouldn't stop me buying one
Auto box only puts me off
French badge- probably!
Instrument cluster that is not directly in front of the driver
I like autolights though- useful here in Swizerland where there are so many tunnels.
LuS1fer said:
Call me a Luddite but I would not buy a new car with any of the following as I don't need them:
Automatic wipers
Automatic lights
LED sidelights.
Vauxhall-style indicators.
(1) You can usually switch them off.Automatic wipers
Automatic lights
LED sidelights.
Vauxhall-style indicators.
(2) Same.
(3) Better get used to them then as LED will be the mainstream before long.
(4) ??
ETA, isn't the indicator just people being ham fisted though? Sure my 220 is the same, touch up or down for 3 flashes or push up or down like old style ones and they work the same.
Edited by Dave_ST220 on Thursday 10th June 10:56
Depreciation
Traction control/ESP that I can't switch off
Any technology with a lower-case 'i' applied to it
Auto-only
Automatic wipers and headlights
Air conditioning
Touch-screens
Bewildering menus with umpty-billion settings (in the words of Hunter S. Thompson, "The Cadillac's dashboard featured half a million switches and gauges telling me things that I would never, ever need to know.") - Just be set up properly in the first place, dammit! I haven't got all day!
Built-in satnav (I don't want the EU to track me all over the world in preparation for a pay-as-you-drive, fine-as-you-speed orbital billing programme thank you. I'll use a map, it's easier.)
Excessive weight (unless it's a luxobarge, there's no need for a car to weigh over 1200kg)
Airbags in silly places, especially where a lighter, less bulky seat or a thinner pillar would have resulted instead
Stop-start technology (I just know, one day, when these cars are older, it'll stop and never come back on again. At the lights. During rush hour.)
Numb-feeling steering
Drive-by-wire pedals
Big, googly, oochie-coochie-coo headlights
Surprisingly, there are still a fair few new cars out there that conform to these requirements. They get terrible reviews in the star-rating stakes but nearly all of the reviewers will admit, in a tiny bit of print tucked out of sight, that they're fun to drive.
Traction control/ESP that I can't switch off
Any technology with a lower-case 'i' applied to it
Auto-only
Automatic wipers and headlights
Air conditioning
Touch-screens
Bewildering menus with umpty-billion settings (in the words of Hunter S. Thompson, "The Cadillac's dashboard featured half a million switches and gauges telling me things that I would never, ever need to know.") - Just be set up properly in the first place, dammit! I haven't got all day!
Built-in satnav (I don't want the EU to track me all over the world in preparation for a pay-as-you-drive, fine-as-you-speed orbital billing programme thank you. I'll use a map, it's easier.)
Excessive weight (unless it's a luxobarge, there's no need for a car to weigh over 1200kg)
Airbags in silly places, especially where a lighter, less bulky seat or a thinner pillar would have resulted instead
Stop-start technology (I just know, one day, when these cars are older, it'll stop and never come back on again. At the lights. During rush hour.)
Numb-feeling steering
Drive-by-wire pedals
Big, googly, oochie-coochie-coo headlights
Surprisingly, there are still a fair few new cars out there that conform to these requirements. They get terrible reviews in the star-rating stakes but nearly all of the reviewers will admit, in a tiny bit of print tucked out of sight, that they're fun to drive.
Edited by Twincam16 on Thursday 10th June 11:05
kambites said:
I assume by "Vauxhall style indicators", he means the stupid "soft touch" ones. I first experienced them on a Vauxhall (and hated them) but I think some other manufacturers have started using them now.
On my TT you can turn the "helpful" lanechange-indicator feature off.Twincam16 said:
Bewildering menus with umpty-billion settings (in the words of Hunter S. Thompson, "The Cadillac's dashboard featured half a million switches and gauges telling me things that I would never, ever need to know.")
Ah but he also liked a nice gadget or two, like windows that leapt up with a touch like frogs in a dynamite pond!Gassing Station | General Gassing [Archive] | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff