CAT "C" WRITE OFF,WHAT DO YOU THINK?
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Hi All
Has anyone seen the lilac Cerbera on ebay(its under completed listings now),listed as a cat c write off.The car seems to have been much loved before the accident and the damage appears not to be that bad,the guy states the work can be carried out for 1000 quid.I just think it is a shame to let another Cerb go to the knackers yard-the numbers are decreasing all the time.Let me know what you think.I know it will always be graded as a cat c but is this not the insurance company's inability to source parts for a TVR,ie.a new wing.Do you think an AA inspection would be advisable.Its all just a thought-or maybe a pipedream!!!!!
Has anyone seen the lilac Cerbera on ebay(its under completed listings now),listed as a cat c write off.The car seems to have been much loved before the accident and the damage appears not to be that bad,the guy states the work can be carried out for 1000 quid.I just think it is a shame to let another Cerb go to the knackers yard-the numbers are decreasing all the time.Let me know what you think.I know it will always be graded as a cat c but is this not the insurance company's inability to source parts for a TVR,ie.a new wing.Do you think an AA inspection would be advisable.Its all just a thought-or maybe a pipedream!!!!!
the lilac one?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1998-TVR-CERBERA-4-2-LIGTH-S...
Looks like a nice car. If he can repair for £500 then you will need to probably budget £1500 for paint ie front end respray?
I think its great if people 'save' these cars. The only down side is that it might cost you more than its worth? Whats a cat C worth - 2/3rds of normal value?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1998-TVR-CERBERA-4-2-LIGTH-S...
Looks like a nice car. If he can repair for £500 then you will need to probably budget £1500 for paint ie front end respray?
I think its great if people 'save' these cars. The only down side is that it might cost you more than its worth? Whats a cat C worth - 2/3rds of normal value?
Plus one on what Woral says re dealing with that bunch! It may cost them 500 quid to repair but the repair will most likely be blue tacked on!
Like Gaz says a proper repair will probably end up costing more than the car is worth.
If however you are still interested, buy the car from them and then get someone else to do the repairs, someone like plasticman will do the repairs comparatively cheaply. When you go to look at it you need to make sure the chassis is straight as if it's not it will make the repair bill exponentially higher! probably easiest way to do this is with the front wheel straight measure the distance from the wheel to the body (should be same on both sides if the chassis is even. However this does not take account of any chassis damage forward of the wishbones.
Like Gaz says a proper repair will probably end up costing more than the car is worth.
If however you are still interested, buy the car from them and then get someone else to do the repairs, someone like plasticman will do the repairs comparatively cheaply. When you go to look at it you need to make sure the chassis is straight as if it's not it will make the repair bill exponentially higher! probably easiest way to do this is with the front wheel straight measure the distance from the wheel to the body (should be same on both sides if the chassis is even. However this does not take account of any chassis damage forward of the wishbones.
I know it is not a cerb but this looks better value if you feel like rescuing something...
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1995-TVR-Griffith-5-0-SALAVG...
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1995-TVR-Griffith-5-0-SALAVG...
markh1 said:
If however you are still interested, buy the car from them and then get someone else to do the repairs, someone like plasticman will do the repairs comparatively cheaply. When you go to look at it you need to make sure the chassis is straight as if it's not it will make the repair bill exponentially higher! probably easiest way to do this is with the front wheel straight measure the distance from the wheel to the body (should be same on both sides if the chassis is even. However this does not take account of any chassis damage forward of the wishbones.
This is what I'd do if I were to buy that car. Oh and try to get it as cheap as you possibly can "just in case".WorAl said:
That will never in a million years cost £1k to fettle. I had similar on the back end (i.e. quarter taken off) and the insurance paid out £6k to fix. Top job Surface and Design done though.
Oh and Barge pole springs to mind when using them by the way. PM Me for details if you like.
Seconded...Oh and Barge pole springs to mind when using them by the way. PM Me for details if you like.
£7250 for a 98 plate 4.2 ?
£1000 worth of repairs ..... or more.....
£1000 minimum for front end respray
(total costs probably a bit light, more like 3-4k)
Undamaged cars of that age going for £10k as a cat c will it be worth that when fixed ? personally dont think so......
£1000 worth of repairs ..... or more.....
£1000 minimum for front end respray
(total costs probably a bit light, more like 3-4k)
Undamaged cars of that age going for £10k as a cat c will it be worth that when fixed ? personally dont think so......
Edited by kwosimodo on Thursday 10th June 16:59
Hello again
Thanks for all your feedback,maybe you are right 3000 up to 6000 for the repair does seem more realistic,add to that the cost of the car and i could have bought a good condition R reg that hasn't been bumped,does seem a shame though-nice car.
Maybe its better waiting to get one from a reputable dealer or a devoted owner.
"The wait continues"
Pass me that barge pole somebody!
Thanks for all your feedback,maybe you are right 3000 up to 6000 for the repair does seem more realistic,add to that the cost of the car and i could have bought a good condition R reg that hasn't been bumped,does seem a shame though-nice car.
Maybe its better waiting to get one from a reputable dealer or a devoted owner.
"The wait continues"
Pass me that barge pole somebody!
its not easy to fic a cat-c car since its catc i means the rebuild of the car will be more then the car it self , if it was a 5 6 grand fix they would have put it as a cat d do expect more damage and mechanical stuff , belive me i know it with my cad-d i had alot of stuff i didnt expect .
ARDA said:
its not easy to fic a cat-c car since its catc i means the rebuild of the car will be more then the car it self , if it was a 5 6 grand fix they would have put it as a cat d do expect more damage and mechanical stuff , belive me i know it with my cad-d i had alot of stuff i didnt expect .
I always wonder will all of the guys selling CAT C/D cars...Assume these cars are bought as salvage....from auction....bought as seen....when buying/bidding for them how and when do they check for chassis damage? If they buy one and it turns out to have chassis damage, however minor, would they repair it correctly and/or say so in an ad selling the car?
Having said that - glad some of these cars are being saved. Well done ARDA!
ARDA said:
its not easy to fic a cat-c car since its catc i means the rebuild of the car will be more then the car it self , if it was a 5 6 grand fix they would have put it as a cat d do expect more damage and mechanical stuff , belive me i know it with my cad-d i had alot of stuff i didnt expect .
not true, when I crashed the cerb the insurance were going to have it written off as a total loss as the car they said was worth £10k and the repair was going to be £6.5k, Hexaham Horseless carriages and myself convinced them otherwise and challenged them to find me another car in the same condition as mine before the accident for £10k, they declined the challenge and paid out for the repair.Just saying that if I hadn't challenged their decision the car would have been Cat C write off with no Damage other than fiberglass. As it stands, it's not even Cat D.
WorAl said:
ARDA said:
its not easy to fic a cat-c car since its catc i means the rebuild of the car will be more then the car it self , if it was a 5 6 grand fix they would have put it as a cat d do expect more damage and mechanical stuff , belive me i know it with my cad-d i had alot of stuff i didnt expect .
not true, when I crashed the cerb the insurance were going to have it written off as a total loss as the car they said was worth £10k and the repair was going to be £6.5k, Hexaham Horseless carriages and myself convinced them otherwise and challenged them to find me another car in the same condition as mine before the accident for £10k, they declined the challenge and paid out for the repair.Just saying that if I hadn't challenged their decision the car would have been Cat C write off with no Damage other than fiberglass. As it stands, it's not even Cat D.
Category A Insurance Write Off - the vehicle must scrapped and no parts or components can be sold other than for scrap. Amounts vary but Category A Insurance Write Off vehicles can be very valuable. Consider some of the online companies that will buy you car 'what ever the condition.' If the insurance company are prepared to give you a settlement figure and the car wreckage then make sure you shop around the various websites for the best offers.
If all else fails try your local scrap metal dealer, they will often pay good money for scrap cars or unrepairable vehicles. Visit our Scrap Cars page for more details.
Category B Insurance Write Off - the vehicle must not be used again but non- structural and roadworthy parts and components may be recovered for use in other vehicles. Care must be taken to ensure that they are not critical components with important safety functions. Again there are several online companies who will offer significant amounts of money for Category B Insurance Write Off vehicles.
Category C Insurance Write Off - the vehicle is repairable but the parts and labour would exceed the value of the car. This is a tricky situation as there are plenty of amateur and professional mechanics who could use second hand parts to repair these vehicles at much lower prices than the list costs for parts and labour. Discuss this with your insurance company if you want to keep the car rather than have it written off.
Category D Insurance Write Off - the vehicle is economically repairable but other factors are involved that cause the insurer to declare the vehicle a write off. Perhaps the replacement car hire is too costly or it will take too long for a specialist part to be delivered. Again, discuss this with your insurance company if you want to keep the car.
Category X Insurance Write Off - the vehicle is easily repairable and may even be still roadworthy.
If all else fails try your local scrap metal dealer, they will often pay good money for scrap cars or unrepairable vehicles. Visit our Scrap Cars page for more details.
Category B Insurance Write Off - the vehicle must not be used again but non- structural and roadworthy parts and components may be recovered for use in other vehicles. Care must be taken to ensure that they are not critical components with important safety functions. Again there are several online companies who will offer significant amounts of money for Category B Insurance Write Off vehicles.
Category C Insurance Write Off - the vehicle is repairable but the parts and labour would exceed the value of the car. This is a tricky situation as there are plenty of amateur and professional mechanics who could use second hand parts to repair these vehicles at much lower prices than the list costs for parts and labour. Discuss this with your insurance company if you want to keep the car rather than have it written off.
Category D Insurance Write Off - the vehicle is economically repairable but other factors are involved that cause the insurer to declare the vehicle a write off. Perhaps the replacement car hire is too costly or it will take too long for a specialist part to be delivered. Again, discuss this with your insurance company if you want to keep the car.
Category X Insurance Write Off - the vehicle is easily repairable and may even be still roadworthy.
Edited by peteA on Friday 11th June 16:52
peteA said:
Category A Insurance Write Off - the vehicle must scrapped and no parts or components can be sold other than for scrap. Amounts vary but Category A Insurance Write Off vehicles can be very valuable. Consider some of the online companies that will buy you car 'what ever the condition.' If the insurance company are prepared to give you a settlement figure and the car wreckage then make sure you shop around the various websites for the best offers.
If all else fails try your local scrap metal dealer, they will often pay good money for scrap cars or unrepairable vehicles. Visit our Scrap Cars page for more details.
Category B Insurance Write Off - the vehicle must not be used again but non- structural and roadworthy parts and components may be recovered for use in other vehicles. Care must be taken to ensure that they are not critical components with important safety functions. Again there are several online companies who will offer significant amounts of money for Category B Insurance Write Off vehicles.
Category C Insurance Write Off - the vehicle is repairable but the parts and labour would exceed the value of the car. This is a tricky situation as there are plenty of amateur and professional mechanics who could use second hand parts to repair these vehicles at much lower prices than the list costs for parts and labour. Discuss this with your insurance company if you want to keep the car rather than have it written off.
Category D Insurance Write Off - the vehicle is economically repairable but other factors are involved that cause the insurer to declare the vehicle a write off. Perhaps the replacement car hire is too costly or it will take too long for a specialist part to be delivered. Again, discuss this with your insurance company if you want to keep the car.
Category X Insurance Write Off - the vehicle is easily repairable and may even be still roadworthy.
Category C Insurance Write Off - the vehicle is repairable but the parts and labour would exceed the value of the car.If all else fails try your local scrap metal dealer, they will often pay good money for scrap cars or unrepairable vehicles. Visit our Scrap Cars page for more details.
Category B Insurance Write Off - the vehicle must not be used again but non- structural and roadworthy parts and components may be recovered for use in other vehicles. Care must be taken to ensure that they are not critical components with important safety functions. Again there are several online companies who will offer significant amounts of money for Category B Insurance Write Off vehicles.
Category C Insurance Write Off - the vehicle is repairable but the parts and labour would exceed the value of the car. This is a tricky situation as there are plenty of amateur and professional mechanics who could use second hand parts to repair these vehicles at much lower prices than the list costs for parts and labour. Discuss this with your insurance company if you want to keep the car rather than have it written off.
Category D Insurance Write Off - the vehicle is economically repairable but other factors are involved that cause the insurer to declare the vehicle a write off. Perhaps the replacement car hire is too costly or it will take too long for a specialist part to be delivered. Again, discuss this with your insurance company if you want to keep the car.
Category X Insurance Write Off - the vehicle is easily repairable and may even be still roadworthy.
Edited by peteA on Friday 11th June 16:52
so i was right then?
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