160mph on a motorway
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j_s_g

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268 months

Wednesday 10th March 2004
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If I were to get flashed by a camera doing 160/170mph on the motorway, what could I expect in terms of a ban/jail?

Note that this is entirely hypothetical - I *haven't* been flashed doing that, or any other speed, on the motorway (I'm still keeping my fingers crossed about getting caught at 34mph in a 30 zone last Sunday, though)... It's just idle curiosity given that it'd only take a few seconds horizontal action with the loud pedal to get to that point.

xxxxxxrich

188 posts

263 months

Wednesday 10th March 2004
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I heard tale that someone got pulled by BiB for something similar and they told him that he was going faster than there speed detector was calibrated but they spent a long time trying to find something else to nick him for but the car was in good order.

I wonder if you passed through a Gatso would you be out of range before the picture was taken, that would be cool!

Don

28,378 posts

302 months

Wednesday 10th March 2004
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Almost certainly involve a custodial sentence. Wasn't some biker jailed for a similar velocity recently (as in the last year)?

viper paul

2,485 posts

292 months

Wednesday 10th March 2004
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yep think a biker in Essex got a small jail sentence for 150 in a 60, that and a huge fine..

Plotloss

67,280 posts

288 months

Wednesday 10th March 2004
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Custodial more than likely.

But get go past a GATSO at 180 and the evidence is inconclusive

So if travelling at over 110mph make sure you are going over 180mph.

Saftey cameras you see...

joospeed

4,473 posts

296 months

Wednesday 10th March 2004
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But surely the fact that there's no second pic, or rather a second pic with no car in it saya you're going over 180 mph so they just nick you for *speeds in ecess of 180mph* ..?

or do they really have to have the car in both pics?

Plotloss

67,280 posts

288 months

Wednesday 10th March 2004
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Doesnt the second picture corroborate the radar?

I thought that a radar reading without two photos showing the distance travelled was worthless in law...

stackmonkey

5,081 posts

267 months

Wednesday 10th March 2004
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AFAIK, GAtsos work up to just under 160mph, at which point there's no car in the photo. digital scameras work at any speed.

deltaf

6,806 posts

271 months

Wednesday 10th March 2004
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It wouldnt have time to work out the velocity and take the pictures with the car within the lines at anything over 170...at least that seems to be Clarksons conclusion.

Plotloss

67,280 posts

288 months

Wednesday 10th March 2004
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176mph is the upper range.

You get one photo but not a second.

nonegreen

7,803 posts

288 months

Wednesday 10th March 2004
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Jails are full, so I wonder what the idiots would do for a mass 150mph protest of say a couple of thousand cars?

JMGS4

8,852 posts

288 months

Wednesday 10th March 2004
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Jeremy Clarkson tested the reaction times of Gatsos on an airstrip and found with a Cerbie(?) that over 170 they don't even flash.......So if you're going to speed do it over 170mph!!!!!

dcb

6,008 posts

283 months

Wednesday 10th March 2004
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nonegreen said:
Jails are full, so I wonder what the idiots would do for a mass 150mph protest of say a couple of thousand cars?


True jails are full, but where in UK can you do that sort of speed during the day ?

I have trouble staying at much less than that.

About the only place I can think of is the A1 near Peterborough. Four lanes each way, clogged by idiot drivers.

j_s_g

Original Poster:

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268 months

Wednesday 10th March 2004
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JMGS4 said:
Jeremy Clarkson tested the reaction times of Gatsos on an airstrip and found with a Cerbie(?) that over 170 they don't even flash.......So if you're going to speed do it over 170mph!!!!!

That was a Tuscan (S), if I remember rightly. Wish it had been a Cerby!

j_s_g

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Wednesday 10th March 2004
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nonegreen said:
Jails are full, so I wonder what the idiots would do for a mass 150mph protest of say a couple of thousand cars?

Double the price of petrol? Put speed bumps down the motorway? Triple tax on anything with an engine >20cc? No, wait... that's their plans anyway.

j_s_g

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Wednesday 10th March 2004
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Don said:
Almost certainly involve a custodial sentence.

Any idea how long? A token few days, or are we talking months? If it's greater than 1 or 2 days, then it's unbelievable - you probably wouldn't get that for nicking someone elses car & writing it off, yet for showing that you can control your own car at speed...

Plotloss

67,280 posts

288 months

Wednesday 10th March 2004
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The bikers pinched at 153mph got 6 months I think.

Not nice, in the slightest.

nonegreen

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288 months

Wednesday 10th March 2004
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dcb said:

nonegreen said:
Jails are full, so I wonder what the idiots would do for a mass 150mph protest of say a couple of thousand cars?



True jails are full, but where in UK can you do that sort of speed during the day ?

I have trouble staying at much less than that.

About the only place I can think of is the A1 near Peterborough. Four lanes each way, clogged by idiot drivers.


Yeah, I used to have a car like that

j_s_g

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Wednesday 10th March 2004
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Plotloss said:
The bikers pinched at 153mph got 6 months I think.

Not nice, in the slightest.

Better to pretend it's someone elses car that you stole then, perhaps?

jvaughan

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301 months

Wednesday 10th March 2004
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Plotloss said:

But get go past a GATSO at 180 and the evidence is inconclusive

So if travelling at over 110mph make sure you are going over 180mph.

Saftey cameras you see...
I had this discussion last night with a neighbour (who works traffic).
He was saying that yes the evidence would be inconclusive, but the camera will still take one shot, and that would be enough to proove beond all reasonable doubt you were exceeding the limit. (then all they have to proove that you were speeding in excess of the upper limit (say 170) because there was no second picture. presented to a Magistrate, you would be screwed anyway.

Anyone got any views on this ?