A little help from my friends!! almost there!!!

[Nicksy]

Finally got the car back together after engine rebuild and the car is making the right noises but not firing!! After a little investigation I'm sure I have got the plugs the wrong way round for the injectors. so the car isnt firing correctly. Is there any chance that someone can confirm what the corresponding numbers for coils and injectors.

The engine is a 3ltr

Spark plug / coil 1 = Injector No.
Spark plug / coil 2 = Injector No.
Spark plug / coil 3 = Injector No.
Spark plug / coil 4 = Injector No.
Spark plug / coil 5 = Injector No.
Spark plug / coil 6 = Injector No.

Thanks in advance
Nicksy

[5paulmv]

hi on mine back cylinders at off side starts 1 front cylinders offside starts 4 with all numbers running in order hope this helps iff car wont fire up try swapping the cam sensor and the other jack plug round near the bottom pulley as both same lenth and a easy mistake

[Nicksy]

Thanks for that, will have a look at both and let you know what happens. It's something simple!!

Thanks nicksy

[TuxMan]

Hi Nicksey , stand at timing cover side of car right bank is 4...5...6..injectors to match left bank from timing cover is 1...2...3.. hope this makes sense !! :-)

[Nicksy]

ok!

No red face as I had the injectors match the spark plugs so all cool with that! With the crank sensors, on my car the loom has no excess play on the length, there is no way that I can get the top and bottom plugs mixed up!

Any other ideas?

New plugs and all gaps set and then double checked.

Car cranks fine with no fuel, when fuel added you get the slow down with the crank as the ECU is working out what's going on. mixture of normal and black smoke????

Its got to be something simple

Nicksy

[jetstream]

What rebuild work have you done?

Could you of put the trigger wheel on the wrong key way?

[Nicksy]

Had the bottom end bearings, valve springs, head bolts and head gaskets done by local chap that does very high end Jap engines.

Will give him a call to check it out. is there anything to look out for, any schoolboy errors to look out for?

Nicksy

[Gadgeroonie]

is it sparking ?

[Nicksy]

yep! smoking well, just seems that the spark and fuel is not in time. This is why I thought that the injector plugs where the wrong way around!!!

Nicksy

[Jim O.]

I'll second the thought about the trigger wheel on the wrong keyway - that seems like an error that is specific to this engine, so if you aren't familiar with the Duratec, you can easily get it wrong. Even our engine builder, who has built hundreds of high performance engines messed this up on the first Duratec engine he built. After I installed it, the engine wouldn't start, we eventually figured out the problem, and I had to pull off the timing chain cover and move the trigger wheel to the other position. If I remember correctly, to find the problem we removed the crank sensor, put the engine at TDC, and while slowly turning the engine with a socket on the crank bolt, counted the number of teeth before the skipped-tooth by watching through the crank sensor hole. Unfortunately, I don't remember what the count is supposed to be, and I don't have any engines handy to check - maybe someone can help here?

Did you do any wiring? Replace any of the connectors, or even remove a connector so you can slide some heat sheathing over the wires? I did this once, got the pins for the crank or cam sensor reversed, and the car wouldn't start...

[Nicksy]

Thanks Jetstream and Jim O!!!

It was a little struggle to get the end plate off, got it all back together and it started on the button. Happy days!!!

Just got a little water leak from under the car to stop and then down to the MOT centre and then we are back on the road. It has been a long time coming, but it’s going to be worth the wait.

See you all very soon, thanks to everyone for your help.

Nicksy