Right wingers will love this...

[43034]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/10324027...

"Soldiers returning from Afghanistan have been heckled during a homecoming parade in east London.

A group of protesters gathered in Barking town centre as members of the 1st Battalion Royal Anglian Regiment marched through the streets.

The demonstrators also brandished placards opposing the war.

A Metropolitan Police spokesman said two people had been arrested for public order offences.

One witness said: "There were about 25 to 50 Muslim protesters carrying placards with things like 'Muslims Against Crusades' and 'British Soldiers Go To Hell'.

"Then there was a counter-protest of about 100 guys barracking them."

Barking and Dagenham councillor Liam Smith said the march was unaffected by the protest.

He said: "I'm glad the actions of a vocal minority failed to spoil what was a proud day in the borough's history and one we will remember for all the right reasons in years to come.

"The Royal Anglians are our local regiment. We are proud of them and the difficult and dangerous job they do, and as today's turnout for the parade showed, so are the people of Barking and Dagenham."

Muslim anti-war protesters attempted to disrupt another parade in March last year when soldiers from the 2nd Battalion The Royal Anglian Regiment, known as The Poachers, paraded in Luton town centre. "

Not right IMO.

[ewenm]

Sad that they feel the need to do this but freedom of speech allows them to do so (within reason) and that's a right I don't want to see taken away, so we will always have the possibility of this sort of thing.

[eldar]

43034 said:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/10324027...

"Soldiers returning from Afghanistan have been heckled during a homecoming parade in east London.

A group of protesters gathered in Barking town centre as members of the 1st Battalion Royal Anglian Regiment marched through the streets.

The demonstrators also brandished placards opposing the war.

A Metropolitan Police spokesman said two people had been arrested for public order offences.

One witness said: "There were about 25 to 50 Muslim protesters carrying placards with things like 'Muslims Against Crusades' and 'British Soldiers Go To Hell'.

"Then there was a counter-protest of about 100 guys barracking them."

Barking and Dagenham councillor Liam Smith said the march was unaffected by the protest.

He said: "I'm glad the actions of a vocal minority failed to spoil what was a proud day in the borough's history and one we will remember for all the right reasons in years to come.

"The Royal Anglians are our local regiment. We are proud of them and the difficult and dangerous job they do, and as today's turnout for the parade showed, so are the people of Barking and Dagenham."

Muslim anti-war protesters attempted to disrupt another parade in March last year when soldiers from the 2nd Battalion The Royal Anglian Regiment, known as The Poachers, paraded in Luton town centre. "

Not right IMO.

Not right, but we live in a democracy, so they have the right to object peacefully to that war. Others have a right to object to their objection, peacefully.

25 to 50 protesters do not represent the general Muslim view.

[43034]

ewenm said:

Sad that they feel the need to do this but freedom of speech allows them to do so (within reason) and that's a right I don't want to see taken away, so we will always have the possibility of this sort of thing.

"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it." - Evelyn Beatrice Hall (1906), comes to mind.

Still don't like it though, personally. Have your protest rallies of course (although I'm not too fond of those anyway...) but not in a coming home parade?

Of course, it's bleekin' obvious why they chose there and then for maximum effect. Just I dislike it (a lot) personally

[43034]

eldar said:

25 to 50 protesters do not represent the general Muslim view.

No, and I agree with you there. I hope it isn't a case of tar-ing everyone with the same brush here. I dislike all extremists for the record, no matter who they are/their views.

[Pothole]

Why were they marching in Barking? Aren't they based in Bury St Edmunds?

[FourWheelDrift]

Heckling people with guns who have spent the last 6+ months shooting at similar people is not exactly the cleverest thing to do.


(Yes I know they aren't loaded but....)

[allnighter]

I am surprised Ribena hasn't stormed this thread yet.

[DailyMailHater]

43034 said:

ewenm said:

Sad that they feel the need to do this but freedom of speech allows them to do so (within reason) and that's a right I don't want to see taken away, so we will always have the possibility of this sort of thing.

"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it." - Evelyn Beatrice Hall (1906), comes to mind.

Still don't like it though, personally. Have your protest rallies of course (although I'm not too fond of those anyway...) but not in a coming home parade?

Of course, it's bleekin' obvious why they chose there and then for maximum effect. Just I dislike it (a lot) personally

Odd. You say you support freedom of speech but not when it happens in certain places where it can achieve it's objective?

[Parrot of Doom]

DailyMailHater said:

43034 said:

ewenm said:

Sad that they feel the need to do this but freedom of speech allows them to do so (within reason) and that's a right I don't want to see taken away, so we will always have the possibility of this sort of thing.

"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it." - Evelyn Beatrice Hall (1906), comes to mind.

Still don't like it though, personally. Have your protest rallies of course (although I'm not too fond of those anyway...) but not in a coming home parade?

Of course, it's bleekin' obvious why they chose there and then for maximum effect. Just I dislike it (a lot) personally

Odd. You say you support freedom of speech but not when it happens in certain places where it can achieve it's objective?

Perhaps you might care to take some extra lessons in English, because your interpretation of 43034's comments isn't one shared by many other people.

[DailyMailHater]

Parrot of Doom said:

DailyMailHater said:

43034 said:

ewenm said:

Sad that they feel the need to do this but freedom of speech allows them to do so (within reason) and that's a right I don't want to see taken away, so we will always have the possibility of this sort of thing.

"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it." - Evelyn Beatrice Hall (1906), comes to mind.

Still don't like it though, personally. Have your protest rallies of course (although I'm not too fond of those anyway...) but not in a coming home parade?

Of course, it's bleekin' obvious why they chose there and then for maximum effect. Just I dislike it (a lot) personally

Odd. You say you support freedom of speech but not when it happens in certain places where it can achieve it's objective?

Perhaps you might care to take some extra lessons in English, because your interpretation of 43034's comments isn't one shared by many other people.

Have your protest rallies of course (although I'm not too fond of those anyway...) but not in a coming home parade?

word for word what he said
ie have your protest but not there. ie not where it will have an impact

[Parrot of Doom]

that's his comment on their demo, and not on their right to demo. It's a simple distinction that you appear to have missed.

[Jimbeaux]

ewenm said:

Sad that they feel the need to do this but freedom of speech allows them to do so (within reason) and that's a right I don't want to see taken away, so we will always have the possibility of this sort of thing.

True. The better option is to gather enough folks using their same freedom of speech to drown them out.

[Jimbeaux]

DailyMailHater said:

Parrot of Doom said:

DailyMailHater said:

43034 said:

ewenm said:

Sad that they feel the need to do this but freedom of speech allows them to do so (within reason) and that's a right I don't want to see taken away, so we will always have the possibility of this sort of thing.

"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it." - Evelyn Beatrice Hall (1906), comes to mind.

Still don't like it though, personally. Have your protest rallies of course (although I'm not too fond of those anyway...) but not in a coming home parade?

Of course, it's bleekin' obvious why they chose there and then for maximum effect. Just I dislike it (a lot) personally

Odd. You say you support freedom of speech but not when it happens in certain places where it can achieve it's objective?

Perhaps you might care to take some extra lessons in English, because your interpretation of 43034's comments isn't one shared by many other people.

Have your protest rallies of course (although I'm not too fond of those anyway...) but not in a coming home parade?

word for word what he said
ie have your protest but not there. ie not where it will have an impact

It is a matter of taste and class he is speaking of DMH. Sort of like not protesting at a military funeral, etc.

[rypt]

ewenm said:

Sad that they feel the need to do this but freedom of speech allows them to do so (within reason) and that's a right I don't want to see taken away, so we will always have the possibility of this sort of thing.

Funny how they are exercising a right that they would not have in the 2 countries we invaded

[Chris_w666]

rypt said:

ewenm said:

Sad that they feel the need to do this but freedom of speech allows them to do so (within reason) and that's a right I don't want to see taken away, so we will always have the possibility of this sort of thing.

Funny how they are exercising a right that they would not have in the 2 countries we invaded

And one that if we were ruled by Sharia law would again be denied them.

[rypt]

Chris_w666 said:

rypt said:

ewenm said:

Sad that they feel the need to do this but freedom of speech allows them to do so (within reason) and that's a right I don't want to see taken away, so we will always have the possibility of this sort of thing.

Funny how they are exercising a right that they would not have in the 2 countries we invaded

And one that if we were ruled by Sharia law would again be denied them.

Indeed, so they are using a right that they do not agree with, that we have tried to give to Afghanistan, to protest against it.

[The real Apache]

DailyMailHater said:

ie have your protest but not there. ie not where it will have an impact

It's that old chestnut, with every freedom comes responsibility. Protest but don't be tactless, tasteless or a complete cock about it.
If these people keep pushing it there will be ructions eventually and the only result of that will be some new kneejerk legislation or curtailment of that particular freedom

[Chris_w666]

rypt said:

Chris_w666 said:

rypt said:

ewenm said:

Sad that they feel the need to do this but freedom of speech allows them to do so (within reason) and that's a right I don't want to see taken away, so we will always have the possibility of this sort of thing.

Funny how they are exercising a right that they would not have in the 2 countries we invaded

And one that if we were ruled by Sharia law would again be denied them.

Indeed, so they are using a right that they do not agree with, that we have tried to give to Afghanistan, to protest against it.

'tis a strange situation. Where a small number of people with extreme views use the policies of one government to try and force their views on the majority, use the freedom they have to plot against the country that allows them the freedom to go about their business largely unchallenged, and have the ultimate goal of maaking the country so unfree that their children or grandchildren would not be allowed views that go against their own.

[The real Apache]

I do love the irony of it though and these idiots either choose to ignore it or it is oblivious to them