AIRCON

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chimtvr999

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30 posts

278 months

Wednesday 10th April 2002
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Has anyone tried to fit an aircon on a chimaera ? It seems there is a problem to retrofit an aircon on a chimaera because the inner wing is different when the factory manufactures the body for an aircon car. There is a hole in the wing to put the evaporator. This hole does not exists on a standart car and seems difficult to reproduce. I have been told that even the TVR Aircon factory specialist has not been able to retrofit an aircon system that works correcty on a dutch Chimaera. Has anyone some usefull feedback of a Chimaera aircon installation ?

Regards

Phil

anonymous-user

56 months

Wednesday 10th April 2002
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I've got factory fitted aircon.


Have to have a look at the installation for you.

Lee

chimtvr999

Original Poster:

30 posts

278 months

Thursday 11th April 2002
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Thanks
By the way are you happy with your aircon ? Is it efficient especially when it is very hot. I've read a few comments of people that tell the aircon does not work very well on Grif and Chim. But it seems it is better since they change the front nose of the car (the one with the front nose without gril like the Cerbera).
Which model do you have (year, front nose type) ?

Regards
Phil

manek

2,972 posts

286 months

Thursday 11th April 2002
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I once investigated the cost of post-installed aircon -- it's a back to the factory job, price around £2500. Apart from the length of time you lose your car, I figured there were much better ways of disposing of that sort of cash.

chimtvr999

Original Poster:

30 posts

278 months

Thursday 11th April 2002
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Thanks Manek for this info. I did not know TVR was charging that much for an aircon retro fit. Marc, the belgian TVR importer is looking for a solution but as I wrote below, he has been told by the factory that the body is different on a factory aircon fitted car because originally there was not enough place on the passager side wing to fit the evaporator. The problem is to find how the factory sorted that out. Marc is waiting for the next big front crached aircon fitted Chim he gets to saw front wings of the scrap to see what's in there.
There is another way to investigate, it would be to place the evaporator in the driver side inner wing fitted on the second cold air ventillation unit. The big advantage of this solution is that the air that comes form there is much colder that the air that passes through the whole passenger wing to feed the heating system. This air is already warmed up by the enormous heating of the engine.

I've read in your profile that once you performed a rechip and rolling road session. Are you happy with the result ? (I am planning to get the carbon trumpets and plenum from actproducts.co.uk plus a rechip by Mark aAams). I wonder what you already get only from the rechip (in terms of power, torque, drivability...)

Regards
Phil

anonymous-user

56 months

Thursday 11th April 2002
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To be honest I have only had the car 2 weeks and haven't used the aircon, because it hasn't been warm enough.

Mine is the later model Chimaera (Cerbera type front).

Lee

hughjayteens

2,029 posts

270 months

Friday 12th April 2002
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I have a later model Chimaera with AC and it works OK, but it takes a minute or so to get really cool - The recirculator makes it slightly better in traffic, but I am not sure it is worth £2000 +...

Supraman - You should run the AC for at least 30 minutes a week or the seals can dry out (or so I have been told)....

manek

2,972 posts

286 months

Friday 12th April 2002
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Thanks Manek for this info. I did not know TVR was charging that much for an aircon retro fit. Marc, the belgian TVR importer is looking for a solution but as I wrote below, he has been told by the factory that the body is different on a factory aircon fitted car because originally there was not enough place on the passager side wing to fit the evaporator. The problem is to find how the factory sorted that out. Marc is waiting for the next big front crached aircon fitted Chim he gets to saw front wings of the scrap to see what's in there.
There is another way to investigate, it would be to place the evaporator in the driver side inner wing fitted on the second cold air ventillation unit. The big advantage of this solution is that the air that comes form there is much colder that the air that passes through the whole passenger wing to feed the heating system. This air is already warmed up by the enormous heating of the engine.

I've read in your profile that once you performed a rechip and rolling road session. Are you happy with the result ? (I am planning to get the carbon trumpets and plenum from actproducts.co.uk plus a rechip by Mark aAams). I wonder what you already get only from the rechip (in terms of power, torque, drivability...)

Regards
Phil



I got more drivablity (though having just filled up with Optimax for the first time, it's not even smoother), and a power increase from 208bhp to 239bhp. Worth having! The graphs are here on PH somewhere...

anonymous-user

56 months

Friday 12th April 2002
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supraman - You should run the AC for at least 30 minutes a week or the seals can dry out (or so I have been told)....




I know you should run it every week or month or so, but I haven't used the car much since I got it.
Hopefully I'll take it out for a blast this weekend.

Lee

manek

2,972 posts

286 months

Friday 12th April 2002
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I should have typed: since I filled up with optimimax its GOT even smoother.

chimtvr999

Original Poster:

30 posts

278 months

Saturday 13th April 2002
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Do you know how many HP you got from the Optimax before the rolling road session and fine tuning ? I mean did the rolling road tuning session add many extra HP to the optimax or did you already had a big increase with the optimax only ?

Regards
Phil

manek

2,972 posts

286 months

Saturday 13th April 2002
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The rolling road sesh was probably about three years ago. I only filled up with Optimax (got it right!) yesterday...

chimtvr999

Original Poster:

30 posts

278 months

Sunday 14th April 2002
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That means you replaced the chip that was tuned on the rolling road session and that made you jump from 208 to 239 HP with the Optimax Chip ?
Don't you feel a lost of power or torque with the Optimax ?

Regards
Phil

manek

2,972 posts

286 months

Sunday 14th April 2002
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The rechipping/rolling road sesion was a while back and the car's been much more driveable since. Optimax is Shell's new 98+RON petrol and makes the engine even smoother. Sorry I wasn't clearer.

chimtvr999

Original Poster:

30 posts

278 months

Wednesday 17th April 2002
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Hi Manek,

Is your car a 400 or a 400HC ?

Regards
Phil

manek

2,972 posts

286 months

Wednesday 17th April 2002
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It's a bog-standard 4.0 -- though Mark Adams did say that it was one of the best fettled 4.0 lumps he'd seen, since the power increase he managed to get out of it (208->239bhp) was about the highest.