Considering the performances of other nations...

[dreamz]

are the two draws that england have had being put more into perspective?

you've had the italians - current world champs - 1-1 with paraguay and now 1-1 against NZ

france - a goaless draw and a defeat

spain - defeat against the swiss

no team apart from maybe a few south american nations have kicked in

the african contingent havent shone as they were meant to.

[daphantom]

How did NZ look a better organized side with greater heart , not to mention technique, than England though?

[dreamz]

i think alot of the smaller sides have come to SA with a bigger heart

to me it seems the african nations - the ones that are under pressure to perform well in thier home continent - they're the ones that are struggling under that...