Home network problem...arrgh!

[Frik]

My flatmate bought a new computer the other day and I've been having a few problems getting t'internet working on it correctly. After some pissing about I am back to where I started. Basically the connection at his end is incredibly slow (like over 5 minutes to open google main page).

Set up: Broadband (600K) through my computer to a hub, another computer on the network works fine and we're both running XP. I'm not completely ignorant of these techy things but I am at a loss.

Can anybody point out what I am doing wrong?

[plotloss]

Network protocol conflict somewhere on his box?

Sounds like theres rather a lot of either chatiness or failed resolutions going on.

[Frik]

plotloss said:

Network protocol conflict somewhere on his box? Sounds like theres rather a lot of either chatiness or failed resolutions going on.

Okay, I am completely ignorant! Explainy please?

[plotloss]

Do you have an IP Network?

If so, disable just about every other protocol on his machine. Apart from the ones required for ICS if that is what you are using.

[ErnestM]

Could always modify the HOSTS or LMHOSTS file as well on the other machine since there is probably not any IP/HOSTS name resolution going on. What do you think, Plotloss?

ErnestM

[Frik]

plotloss said:

Do you have an IP Network? If so, disable just about every other protocol on his machine. Apart from the ones required for ICS if that is what you are using.

I'll give it a try, cheers. I am using ICS yes. I've also released and renewed the IP addresses on the his.

>> Edited by Frik on Thursday 11th March 18:41

[marlboro]

Suggest you buy a box to serve the Broadband connections.
This should do what you require:
www.ebuyer.com/customer/products/index.html?action=c2hvd19wcm9kdWN0X292ZXJ2aWV3&product_uid=41592

It's much easier.

[Frik]

marlboro said:

Suggest you buy a box to serve the Broadband connections. This should do what you require: www.ebuyer.com/customer/products/index.html?action=c2hvd19wcm9kdWN0X292ZXJ2aWV3&product_uid=41592 It's much easier.

Well considering I spent more than a bit of time setting up the network for 4 different computers and installing all the cabling to 3 different floors in the house, it's kinda a bit late for this now! Cheers for the info mind.

Anyway, they have all worked in the past and I managed to do it at my old house too with very little difficulty. Just this one problem though. I'm gonna try what was advised earlier tomorrow and if that doesn't work, I'll probably end up whinging on here again!

Cheers people.

[squirrelz]

If you still have problems, we'll need more detail about the layout of the network, and what kit you're using.

More that willing to help though.

[TheExcession]

You need to check the main segments of the network.

First make sure that the link from his box to yours needs to be verified. Do a long set of pings from his box to yours and yours to his. Make sure none time out

ping xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx -t

If possible do an ftp from his box to yours and make sure that he gets a good transfer rate.

This verifies your local segments - (could be something as simple as a dodgy LAN cable).

Next from his box start a DOS window and run nslookup.
type in www.google.co.uk

if you don't get answer back pretty much straight away then this is a DNS issue.

Let us know if DNS is working and we'll help out on the next steps.

best
Ex

[tvradict]

I was helping my mate network his desktop and laptop the other day and found a bug ( In a microsoft product, you can imagine my surprise )

We couldn't get the computers to see each other, so after much disabling of things, I clicked repair network in the properties box, then did ctrl-alt-del, the repair thing wasn't responding, end now and hey presto, it worked, same on the other machine and hey presto, multiplayer gaming at its finest

Future reference just in case

[Frik]

TheExcession said:

You need to check the main segments of the network. First make sure that the link from his box to yours needs to be verified. Do a long set of pings from his box to yours and yours to his. Make sure none time out ping xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx -t If possible do an ftp from his box to yours and make sure that he gets a good transfer rate. This verifies your local segments - (could be something as simple as a dodgy LAN cable). Next from his box start a DOS window and run nslookup. type in www.google.co.uk if you don't get answer back pretty much straight away then this is a DNS issue. Let us know if DNS is working and we'll help out on the next steps. best Ex

I fear that DNS is not working. The above resulted in the following:

DNS request timed out
time out was 2 seconds
***Request to unknown time-out

I have tried both matching the IP addresses and setting them to choose automatically to no avail.

Pinging from mine results in continued time outs.

If I run the network wizard on his laptop I get a connection on his that is very slow but works. If I change anything it immediately loses any ability to connect.

Any further ideas?

Thanks in advance.

[Plotloss]

Is your machine in his host table with a different IP address?

That could be causing the DNS conflict.

[Frik]

Plotloss said:

Is your machine in his host table with a different IP address? That could be causing the DNS conflict.

Where can I find this out?

[Plotloss]

C:\Windows\System32\Drivers\Etc

File called Hosts with no extension or maybe Hosts.hst

Should only have one entry:


127.0.0.1 localhost

[Frik]

Just Hosts and Imhosts in that folder (well, not only but you see what I mean).

Contents of Hosts as stated.

[Plotloss]

Bugger

[Frik]

Plotloss said:

Bugger

Seconded.

I just can't get my head round the fact that it is all working as it should, but at about a tenth of the speed of dial-up!

[GregE240]

Whats the settings in Tools, Internet Options?

Should be set up for ICS - if you've got something like "automatically detect settings" it can wait bloody ages.