This Jubliani Football at the world cup....
Discussion
If this new ball is causing so many problems, and everyone says its ruining the games (no goals scored direct from a free kick yet - WTF is that all about???) why are they pursisting with it?
Surley, before the last group matches start, they could just replace it NOW with another ball? One thats tried and tested and not so controversial? Then we could see if theres a difference.
If not now, then before the next round? Everyone gets the same ball. No one gets an unfair advantage.
Perhaps we'll see some goals scored from distance then, and perhaps we wont look back on this world cup as the game ruined by a dodgy ball.
Surley, before the last group matches start, they could just replace it NOW with another ball? One thats tried and tested and not so controversial? Then we could see if theres a difference.
If not now, then before the next round? Everyone gets the same ball. No one gets an unfair advantage.
Perhaps we'll see some goals scored from distance then, and perhaps we wont look back on this world cup as the game ruined by a dodgy ball.
FIFA have a multi-year contract with Adidas, which I think takes in the next World Cup also (so expect another ball to be launched for that, that will be rounder and more aerodynamic than ever before). This is the same reason England played no competitive games with the ball before the World Cup due to The FA having a ball contract for England games, the same with the Premiership and also the Football League.
Adidas probably have no old style balls available in any numbers as all their production facilities will be producing the 'Jubliani'.
I would love to see some controlled experiments to test the ball against older balls.
Adidas probably have no old style balls available in any numbers as all their production facilities will be producing the 'Jubliani'.
I would love to see some controlled experiments to test the ball against older balls.
andyjo1982 said:
If they changed it though some teams would moan because they've practiced with it. I think players just need to get a grip, it may be lighter, but these players are the pinnacle of their profession and should be able to adapt.
No way they'll change it now.
It is not lighter as there are guidelines to the weight and size of the ball. No way they'll change it now.
Edited by Russ35 on Monday 21st June 11:14
Russ35 said:
FIFA have a multi-year contract with Adidas, which I think takes in the next World Cup also (so expect another ball to be launched for that, that will be rounder and more aerodynamic than ever before). This is the same reason England played no competitive games with the ball before the World Cup due to The FA having a ball contract for England games, the same with the Premiership and also the Football League.
Adidas probably have no old style balls available in any numbers as all their production facilities will be producing the 'Jubliani'.
I would love to see some controlled experiments to test the ball against older balls.
i'd like to know if the ball behaves differently at different grounds. Cape Town is at sea level, some of the other grounds are at 6000+ feet. Has any thought been given to the fact that the balls need to have different levels of inflation for differnet alltitudes? The bounce at some grounds seems to catch a lot of the players out. lots of miscontroled passing too - look at how many times the ball seemed to 'bounce' of Rooneys feet when he went to control it, handing possesion to the opposition.Adidas probably have no old style balls available in any numbers as all their production facilities will be producing the 'Jubliani'.
I would love to see some controlled experiments to test the ball against older balls.
Could this be part of the problem I wonder? If all the balls were inflated to the same psi at sea level, my guess is they'd react different at higher levels due to local air pressure being less at altitude..
The problem as I understand it, is due to how they seal the ball. Unlike other footballs, there is no seam, which reduces drag, and in turn makes it harder to shape the ball.
Something very similar can be seen if you look at golf balls - old golf balls used to be smooth, but players noticed that they were easier to control when they were marked. Over the years that evolved into the dimple patterns that we see today.
So FIFA/Adidas have effectively done the opposite to what golf did. Genius.
Something very similar can be seen if you look at golf balls - old golf balls used to be smooth, but players noticed that they were easier to control when they were marked. Over the years that evolved into the dimple patterns that we see today.
So FIFA/Adidas have effectively done the opposite to what golf did. Genius.
Bing o said:
The problem as I understand it, is due to how they seal the ball. Unlike other footballs, there is no seam, which reduces drag, and in turn makes it harder to shape the ball.
Something very similar can be seen if you look at golf balls - old golf balls used to be smooth, but players noticed that they were easier to control when they were marked. Over the years that evolved into the dimple patterns that we see today.
So FIFA/Adidas have effectively done the opposite to what golf did. Genius.
One of the things they have done is actually put a texture/marks on the ball to try to make it's flight consistent.Something very similar can be seen if you look at golf balls - old golf balls used to be smooth, but players noticed that they were easier to control when they were marked. Over the years that evolved into the dimple patterns that we see today.
So FIFA/Adidas have effectively done the opposite to what golf did. Genius.
There are a few videos out there showing them talking to the guys at loughborough Uni where it was designed/tested.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/local/leicester/hi/people_an...
http://www.lboro.ac.uk/service/publicity/news-rele...
The ball being made
http://soccerlens.com/shirts/adidas-jabulani-epic-...
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