M90 unmarked traffic car.........
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....seen this two days in a row now on way to work so am getting jittery.
Dark greem BWW saloon, VERY inconspicuous, has all the lights etc tucked out of sight inside normal light fittings. Active both times spotted, having pulled both on North and South directions, once a large van and once a A class merc (!!).
Oh, they also have a white unmarked mondeo running about too....
cheers
Mojo.
Dark greem BWW saloon, VERY inconspicuous, has all the lights etc tucked out of sight inside normal light fittings. Active both times spotted, having pulled both on North and South directions, once a large van and once a A class merc (!!).
Oh, they also have a white unmarked mondeo running about too....
cheers
Mojo.
Peter Ward said:
I guess there have been unmarked police cars around for years. Has their purpose changed with the growth in the use of speed cameras? Are they now more focused on speed and less on careless/dangerous driving?
How do you know the Merc and the van hadn't been pulled for careless/dangerous driving?
jim'schim said:
I guess there have been unmarked police cars around for years. Has their purpose changed with the growth in the use of speed cameras? Are they now more focused on speed and less on careless/dangerous driving?
How do you know the Merc and the van hadn't been pulled for careless/dangerous driving?
Sorry, I didn't mean to imply the reasons why these cars had been pulled. It was a more general question. No offence meant.
Peter Ward said:
I guess there have been unmarked police cars around for years. Has their purpose changed with the growth in the use of speed cameras? Are they now more focused on speed and less on careless/dangerous driving?
Dont need to be in an unmarked car to catch speeders..........trust me.
However, the increased use of unmarked cars is in order to tackle the real problem of dangerous drivers and i support this 100%.
tonyrec said:
I guess there have been unmarked police cars around for years. Has their purpose changed with the growth in the use of speed cameras? Are they now more focused on speed and less on careless/dangerous driving?
Dont need to be in an unmarked car to catch speeders..........trust me.
However, the increased use of unmarked cars is in order to tackle the real problem of dangerous drivers and i support this 100%.
I agree wholeheartly Tony, but it always seems there's never one around when you want one....or rather to get some prat off the road.
Mojo.
tonyrec said:
I guess there have been unmarked police cars around for years. Has their purpose changed with the growth in the use of speed cameras? Are they now more focused on speed and less on careless/dangerous driving?
Dont need to be in an unmarked car to catch speeders..........trust me.
However, the increased use of unmarked cars is in order to tackle the real problem of dangerous drivers and i support this 100%.
Well I may be mistaken but I am inclined to be somewhat reassured by that.
As part of my contributions to the speed and road safety debate I have maintained from the outset that I would like to see more traffic cars around, clamping down on the dangerous drivers, and in the less serious cases providing some guidance to those they stop. It will already be clear that I have disregarded the NSL ever since it was introduced (around 1965-1967?) and therefore unmarked cars in particular have always been a potential problem for me.
Incidentally, I have never been 'done' for speeding, although there were two instances where police officers stopped me and 'had a word' about my speed. That was round about 1962 and again in 1970.
For what it is worth I am hoping that we may move towards a situation where traffic cars (marked or unmarked) will follow a speeder, but leave him/her alone if they are satisfied that he/she is driving in a suitably safe and expert manner.
I am under no illusions about this, so regrettably I have to recognise that the way things are going, it is increasingly likely I shall get 'done' for speeding.
Best wishes all.
Dave.
xxplod said:
Generally speaking, in my force the unmarked cars don't really touch things doing much less than a ton on the motorway. They really are there to get the proper numpties.
OK that's starting to sound pretty good, though I would still like a bit more leeway for the real expert, so long as the conditions are suitable and he does it properly.
In this context I am not thinking of me and my poor old 406 HDi which according to Peugeot (and not verified by me) would be flat out at 112 mph. Oh dear, please can I have the XJ12 back.
Best wishes all.
Dave.
So all the complaints about gatso,s dont catch bad drivers , is answered.some forces are taking notice of their poor record in detection, of bad driving.This Could catch on!!!.At least while on patrol, they also can see other law breakers doing their Biz.Some of the Patrol crews know the differance between D/D and speeding on a clear motorway, camera,s do not.Its a 50/50 chance you MAY have a little chat,a lot of drivers remember that more than the points.I think if you get pulled over and "Chatted" you get a warning, which is logged.If it happens again within a set time, you then get a requirement to attend a day-s drivers instruction course , which costs you.its more positive than a scamera.
>> Edited by B 7 VP on Saturday 13th March 13:24
>> Edited by B 7 VP on Saturday 13th March 13:24
pesty said:
Did the unmarked car have 2 rear view mirrors? and extra arels or are they getting more sneaky?
like to know what to look out for
From "previous" experience with the fore-mentioned white mondeo there was nothing to give the game away apart from the manner of driving ie r/h lane hogging trying to get drivers to undertake-which i didn't much to his intense annoyance
Peter Ward said:
It's good to know that the use of unmarked cars is primarily to address the dangerous drivers. Let's have more of this!!
Only in the Met., apparently.
mojocvh said:
<...> there was nothing to give the game away apart from the manner of driving ie r/h lane hogging trying to get drivers to undertake <...>
jeffreyarcher said:
It's good to know that the use of unmarked cars is primarily to address the dangerous drivers. Let's have more of this!!
Only in the Met., apparently.
mojocvh said:
<...> there was nothing to give the game away apart from the manner of driving ie r/h lane hogging trying to get drivers to undertake <...>
Yeah that was a good game that. He'd already been overtaken twice then moved over and stayed there. I stayed in L/H lane apart from pulling out to pass slower traffic and would sit in a following position for a moment , then with no reaction pull back in. The police driver then started to slow as he passed traffic allowing me to close right up on him but I would then pull back into L/H lane and fall back myself.
In the end he got so pissed off that I WASN'T going to undertake him I got the hidden rear lights set off for a single flash and he then increased speed and drove off into the distance..I must admit that after reading the BIB on here I was taken aback by that........But there you go.
cheers
MoJo.
On the subject of unmarked cars hanging back in the R/H lane tempting undertaking - I got pulled by a black C-class Merc doing the exact same thing on the M8 motorway this week. R/H lane was queued with cars beginning to brake - me in L/H lane kept on at same speed as it was clear in front.
Eventually I pulled out to overtake a lorry, and was later told by plod I was undertaking, and it was dangerous. Never did me for that, but handed me a NIP for 92 in 70 just after that point (straight road, good visibility etc). Not complaining, just annoyed. No action taken on any of the cars in front of plod in the R/H lane who wouldn't pull in to the left.....
Eventually I pulled out to overtake a lorry, and was later told by plod I was undertaking, and it was dangerous. Never did me for that, but handed me a NIP for 92 in 70 just after that point (straight road, good visibility etc). Not complaining, just annoyed. No action taken on any of the cars in front of plod in the R/H lane who wouldn't pull in to the left.....
pallison said:
and I've just noticed they've got my DOB wrong on the FPN ticket, but I'm sure there's no chance of getting off this one, as my name, address, licence number etc are all OK ....
Lots of non-compliant speed limit signs on the road works on the M8. I realise that you weren't in a road works section, but if the last sign (e.g. the exit from the road works limit) was wrong, you may have a defence.
TripleS said:
Generally speaking, in my force the unmarked cars don't really touch things doing much less than a ton on the motorway. They really are there to get the proper numpties.
OK that's starting to sound pretty good, though I would still like a bit more leeway for the real expert, so long as the conditions are suitable and he does it properly.
Dont think that you will get more leeway than that....unless the Law was to change.
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