Second Hand Jets

[Marty Funkhouser]

Anyone here got an idea what it would cost to buy, run & maintain a small secand hand private jet? Doesnt have to fit many people in it, just the pilot & co pilot at minimum...

TIA

[elster]

Marty Funkhouser said:

Anyone here got an idea what it would cost to buy, run & maintain a small secand hand private jet? Doesn't have to fit many people in it, just the pilot & co pilot at minimum...

TIA

Depends what you are wanting it to do.

If it is hopping around Europe sometimes a turboprop can work out better.

[Marty Funkhouser]

Nah, I want a jet - just want to get an idea if its £10's of millions a year to run....

[tjl]

It if flys, floats or f****, rent it !

A small 4 seater jet like an Embraer Phenom would cost around £2m to buy new so its not going to cost 10's of millions to run unless you get into the really large cabin corporate jets like a gulfstream.

[LD1Racing]

Are you talking business jets or ex-military stuff? For business jets just rent with Net-Jets or similar.

If you're after some fast military hardware, you can pick up an Albatros or similar for £100-400k, ex-Eastern European trainer with quite a big following in the US. For a bit more you are in Alfa Jet territory, or even £1-2M for an F-5 Tiger (the 'MIG-31s' in Top Gun!). More current stuff, who knows? Larry Ellison has an F-16, but isn't exactly short of a few quid.

Have you just won Euromillions or something?

[Marty Funkhouser]

LD1Racing said:

Are you talking business jets or ex-military stuff? For business jets just rent with Net-Jets or similar.

If you're after some fast military hardware, you can pick up an Albatros or similar for £100-400k, ex-Eastern European trainer with quite a big following in the US. For a bit more you are in Alfa Jet territory, or even £1-2M for an F-5 Tiger (the 'MIG-31s' in Top Gun!). More current stuff, who knows? Larry Ellison has an F-16, but isn't exactly short of a few quid.

Have you just won Euromillions or something?

Its for private use so no military hardware.

[lawrence567]

Marty Funkhouser said:

LD1Racing said:

Are you talking business jets or ex-military stuff? For business jets just rent with Net-Jets or similar.

If you're after some fast military hardware, you can pick up an Albatros or similar for £100-400k, ex-Eastern European trainer with quite a big following in the US. For a bit more you are in Alfa Jet territory, or even £1-2M for an F-5 Tiger (the 'MIG-31s' in Top Gun!). More current stuff, who knows? Larry Ellison has an F-16, but isn't exactly short of a few quid.

Have you just won Euromillions or something?

Its for private use so no military hardware.

Can i have some money please if you have any spare? lol

[LeeME3]

Best option is possibly shares - there's a few groups around operating private Jet Provosts and shares in them come up quite often for a few £thousand and then a fixed monthly fee plus £couple-of-hundred per hour.

I know there's one based at Newcastle that operates at £350 per hour once you've bought the share.

[Marty Funkhouser]

lawrence567 said:

Marty Funkhouser said:

LD1Racing said:

Are you talking business jets or ex-military stuff? For business jets just rent with Net-Jets or similar.

If you're after some fast military hardware, you can pick up an Albatros or similar for £100-400k, ex-Eastern European trainer with quite a big following in the US. For a bit more you are in Alfa Jet territory, or even £1-2M for an F-5 Tiger (the 'MIG-31s' in Top Gun!). More current stuff, who knows? Larry Ellison has an F-16, but isn't exactly short of a few quid.

Have you just won Euromillions or something?

Its for private use so no military hardware.

Can i have some money please if you have any spare? lol

I wish, just daydreaming.

[Original Poster]

I would think even the cheapest of jets would be £10k+ a year to run etc.

[SystemParanoia]

[LD1Racing]

Marty Funkhouser said:

LD1Racing said:

Are you talking business jets or ex-military stuff? For business jets just rent with Net-Jets or similar.

If you're after some fast military hardware, you can pick up an Albatros or similar for £100-400k, ex-Eastern European trainer with quite a big following in the US. For a bit more you are in Alfa Jet territory, or even £1-2M for an F-5 Tiger (the 'MIG-31s' in Top Gun!). More current stuff, who knows? Larry Ellison has an F-16, but isn't exactly short of a few quid.

Have you just won Euromillions or something?

Its for private use so no military hardware.

Booo, the military stuff is far more interesting. Thought you said just pilot and co-pilot?

[Globulator]

Original Poster said:

I would think even the cheapest of jets would be £10k+ a year to run etc.

You'd be lucky!!

[Marty Funkhouser]

LD1Racing said:

Marty Funkhouser said:

LD1Racing said:

Are you talking business jets or ex-military stuff? For business jets just rent with Net-Jets or similar.

If you're after some fast military hardware, you can pick up an Albatros or similar for £100-400k, ex-Eastern European trainer with quite a big following in the US. For a bit more you are in Alfa Jet territory, or even £1-2M for an F-5 Tiger (the 'MIG-31s' in Top Gun!). More current stuff, who knows? Larry Ellison has an F-16, but isn't exactly short of a few quid.

Have you just won Euromillions or something?

Its for private use so no military hardware.

Booo, the military stuff is far more interesting. Thought you said just pilot and co-pilot?

At a minimum....just wondering just how rich you'd have to be to run your own jet.

[LD1Racing]

Marty Funkhouser said:

LD1Racing said:

Marty Funkhouser said:

LD1Racing said:

Are you talking business jets or ex-military stuff? For business jets just rent with Net-Jets or similar.

If you're after some fast military hardware, you can pick up an Albatros or similar for £100-400k, ex-Eastern European trainer with quite a big following in the US. For a bit more you are in Alfa Jet territory, or even £1-2M for an F-5 Tiger (the 'MIG-31s' in Top Gun!). More current stuff, who knows? Larry Ellison has an F-16, but isn't exactly short of a few quid.

Have you just won Euromillions or something?

Its for private use so no military hardware.

Booo, the military stuff is far more interesting. Thought you said just pilot and co-pilot?

At a minimum....just wondering just how rich you'd have to be to run your own jet.

You could have your own 747-400 for $33M if you wanted.

[Doofus]

I know a chap with a Cessna Business Jet. He bought it new (cancelled order) for around £10m.

I used it once to fly two clients into Europe for the day (didn't get there until it was time to come back again, but that's another story) and he charged me £14,900. He swore that was at cost.

ETA: Crucial mis-type. £14k, not £4k

Edited by Doofus on Tuesday 22 June 16:06

[tjl]

Chartering a small private jet is probably £1000 per hour. A charter company would assume 400 hours per year utilisation (worst case), so I think a ball park figure would be closer to £400,000 to run!

[LD1Racing]

tjl said:

Chartering a small private jet is probably £1000 per hour. A charter company would assume 400 hours per year utilisation (worst case), so I think a ball park figure would be closer to £400,000 to run!

I think it's a bit more than £1000 per hour, that's cheaper than a lot of first class tickets! How small are you talking?

[tjl]

very small - 4 seats

[dilbert]

http://www.controller.com/listingsdetail/aircraft-...

Yours for just £330,000!

Edited by dilbert on Tuesday 22 June 15:44