Haynes Manuals - Who pays?

[TheCarpetCleaner]

So when a new car comes out, how does a Haynes manual get produced?

Does the manufacturer give the Haynes people a car to rip apart, or do the Haynes people buy the car, rip it apart?

I can see how both options would be beneficial over time.

[KenBlocksPants]

TheCarpetCleaner said:

So when a new car comes out, how does a Haynes manual get produced?

Does the manufacturer give the Haynes people a car to rip apart, or do the Haynes people buy the car, rip it apart?

I can see how both options would be beneficial over time.

I dont imagine it is in the manufacturers interests to allow people to work straight away on cars (rather than go to the dealer to fix things)

I also dont think they are produced on new cars either (all being in warranties).

I imagine haynes make a call on each car due to its popularity (No point making a manual for a car that only sold 100 in the UK or something). And take it on a case by case basis

[MX7]

"Hello, is that Hertz? Can I hire one of the new Citroens for a week please?"

I don't know. I'd guess that they would buy a 2 or 3 year old one an rip it apart.

[king arthur]

KenBlocksPants said:

I imagine haynes make a call on each car due to its popularity (No point making a manual for a car that only sold 100 in the UK or something). And take it on a case by case basis

The problem is that the very cars that are likely to be owned by enthusiasts and therefore more likely to be worked on by the owners, are the kind of cars that it's not cost effective to make a manual for. I wish they'd do one for the Jaguar X300 XJ6 but they'd probably only sell a few hundred copies.

[TheCarpetCleaner]

MX7 said:

"Hello, is that Hertz? Can I hire one of the new Citroens for a week please?"

[Garlick]

I did hear that they hire/ borrow them. Not sure how true that is however.

[jhfozzy]

haynes said:

We buy a car at the beginning of the project and sell it at the end - either to staff or on the open market.

HERE

[redstu]

They don't do one for the alfa 156 and quite a few of those were sold, yet they did one (many years ago) for the dolomite sprint and there were only 20000 of those. Times change!

[arfur daley]

HAYNES MANUAL ALL VEHICLES

step one; remove bonnet
step two; disconnect battery
step three; you are now ready to use a piece of wire and a bulb to fix your airbag system

[J500ANT]

They've never done on for the smart either.

IIRC they don't do mega stripdowns like they used to though.

[maniac0796]

At the end of the day, all you need is the torque and angle settings for your car, and the lubricants. Then unbolt what's attached to it, and what it's attached to. The haynes manuals are useful in some circumstances. For instance, the pictures can show where hidden bolts are etc.

But then you have to know the little things, like, with vauxhalls, you can't push the brake pistons back, without loosening the bleed nipple.